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I'd like to point out that Audrey is part of a long line of experiments. There's a secret note that you can find in the Keepers Lair that says something along the lines of "Nearly all of them have called me 'Uncle'. But this one called me 'Dad'. For this, I am proud, as she is practically my daughter in every way". If y'all remember at the end of BATIM, a young girl's voice says "Tell me another one Uncle Joey". Now, knowing what we know in BATDR, we can work out that this young girl is one of the early prototypes for Audrey.
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I assumed that The Searchers, The Lost Ones, The Projectionist, Jack Fain and Sammy are all prototypes of the perfect ink life form aswell
Alice said she remembered how she physically became herself after her first in the dark puddles as a slug, so joey could still Do the same with Tessa.
But then again, Alice was first born as a slug, and at attempt number 2 she became an angel.
If I’m being honest, this game kinda was a “sorry for previously being a game with a vague story line just so Matpat has theories to make about it, here’s a game with a clear story that even casual players can pick up” and I liked that.
@VeritabIlIti lol agreed. One of the only other comments I've seen bringing this up
Yeah, there are quite a few things here that don't add up. For one, why are we immediately assuming Joey is lying about everything? If the ink version isn't actually him, it's possible it has its own personality or that Joey has changed from being a POS. Also, if the acquisition was only a year before the game, how did everything at Archgate go to hell so fast?! I think Matt is being a little quick to discard the entire game with this one...
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“Clearly evil janitor”Mark: “..nah I trust him”
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He was too obvious of a villain, I would’ve trusted him too 💀
@RWilson yeah i just thought that he had a weird voice cause I thought it *WOULDN'T BE THAT OBVIOUS*
I gave him the benefit of the doubt until he started talking like gman
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The thing about Joey and Allison's friendship also not making sense is the fact her arrival in the studio leads to Susie Campbell no longer being the voice actress for Alice Angel, leading to her eventual demise at Joey hands.
Matt: “The OBVIOUSLY evil janitor”Mark: “I am fully convinced this man’s evil appearance is just a red herring and he’s actually a normal, innocent man”
Seeing MatPat doing a theory on Bendy feels like 2017 all over again.
meanwhile a place on earth (o forgot what country, bruhhhh): it is?
2017 was 6 years ago…
This has got to be Matpat’s Villain arc because he keeps questioning the lore and saying the games are lying to us 😂😂😂
@MEMES FROM DEEP SPACE or midlife crisis
Vilain arc or enlightment arc
Glad I'm not the only one who thought joey being nice was strange after doing all of that horrific stuff.
A theory a day keeps MatPat away!
i love that the story is complex in this series.
Love how Mat usually has to dig through mountains of content to get to the lore, but immediately rejects it when it's served to him on a silver platter
@Yza Renice David ?
hes like dora like matpat the lore is right there right there in front of you cant you see it
@Ramon Andrajo so when were there ghost in bendy????
Wow. I’ve been a fan of bendy since it came out 4 years ago. I can’t believe it’s been 5 years!! I also cant believe they published books…may have to check them out now that I know they exist
This really checks out when you consider that Wilson created the house maid in the image of his mother (the maid reveals this in the last chapter) - this makes a lot of sense for him to do if his mother had been killed by Joey and he was missing her.
The timeline doesn’t check out though. Wilson’s mother was still alive after the Nathan Arch bought Joey Drew Studios, something that explicitly happened *after* Joey died. This entire video is objectively incorrect.
Also, in the end credits, we see Betta with her mask on the piano. She has a face that we haven't seen before.What does that face look like?Well...
This!! I was expecting this to be brought up in some way
@Nutty Nuts Nutstache Yeah, she died, and now Wilson misses her because she's dead. The cause of death has no relation to why Wilson misses her, it's purely just an explanation as to why she died in the first place.
@EZRATO I have a plausible reason. The fact that she died. You don't think the fact the she died would be a reason wilson misses her mother, and maybe NOT the cause of her death? Hmmmmmmm?
Kinda wish you would expand on it but this theory actually makes sense. Just think as to why or how Wilson was an undercover “janitor” and had the knowledge of the ink machines importance. And of all the workers why Audrey.
I have a couple of problems with this theory. First off Tessa Arch can't be Audrey, because in the Nathan Arch audio log that we find in Wilsons lab he mentions both visiting the animation department and bring a hotdog home for Tessa. This means that Tessa would still be alive while Audrey was working at Arch Gate Films, so they couldn't be the same person.Second off I think Joey is actually telling the truth for once. I believe him because he told Audrey she was never really human and at the end of the game the Ink Demon tells Audrey that she is like him. This would make sense if Joey was telling the truth because it would mean that the Ink Demon and Audrey were both created solely from the ink. Also, I know this doesn't change the fact that Joey has still done horrible things in the past, but just because a person can't fully redeem themselves doesn't mean they can't realize what they did was wrong and at least try to set some of the things they did right.One more thing, if you wondering why Audrey didn't turn out like the Ink Demon, I am not really certain myself, but I have a theory of my own. My theory is that after Audrey was created Joey showed her love and kindness which were things that the Ink Demon was never exposed to. Because of this Audrey grew up being able to feel compassion and empathy while the Ink Demon ended up becoming the soulless monster we all know and fear.P.S. Sorry for any grammar or punctuation errors.
Absolutely agreed with this
I completely agree! The immediate dismissal of the presented lore also dismisses an interesting character development that would completely ruin all of the emotional payoff of the story, and no self-respecting writer would do that. There's also the question of how Audrey existed in the real world at the beginning and clearly has some recollection of being real. Why would she suddenly have implanted memories? What would that do for anyone?
@VeritabIlIti maybe she is in a cycle too but now one she can control with Joey’s help.
@Eric Kamakeeaina your right, plus he was getting older and maybe he did like Allison but didn’t want to wreck her life so he started trying to create a life that embodied the best parts of him and maybe modeled this child after Allison which is why it’s a girl and not a straight up kid version of him. Also Matt doesn’t explain the ending of why give her the keys to the kingdom?
You either believe he changed and tried to make an echo to tell the truth after he was gone or he made an ink avatar of propaganda.
@The Overlord that's what I want to believe too. It's established that he isn't the actual Joey Drew, but a version of him that continued to exist. With the logic of these games, it's completely plausible that being a father in the ink world would change him. Also, none of this ever addresses how Audrey exists seemingly in the real world at the beginning of the game!!
Definitely a theory worth looking at, but can you explain the ending? Why would Joey still be a bad guy if he was willing enough to face off against the demon to get himself killed for Audrey?
To keep his best creation alive, after all Audrey is perfect to him.
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Nothing like another video of Matpat screaming at us, explaining digital fictional propaganda.
My favorite line from mat, truly opens your eyes to how much of a theorist mat pat is " a SIMPLE hot dog, seems like nothing much right? WRONG"
Glad you are covering this game. Love your content Matpat
Wanted to like the comment but can't ruin the 969, and same
this a throwback to 2017 he used to do tons of these
He probably wanted to give us new content until the gtlive lp of this is done
@DuckGoesViral yeah,it's complicated to enjoy the comments section when there are bots everywhere
It was inevitable
Few little observations1) So Henry from the first game is meant to be an inky recreation of Henry, presumably without a soul. If that’s the case, how come he can touch the ink? Allison in the first game even said “we’re not like you Henry” and proceeds to describe how her and Tom couldn’t cross the ink because they didn’t have a soul and were made purely of ink, but Henry could since he, presumably, did have a soul. If he was just an inky recreation of Henry, he would be soulless, and therefore couldn’t touch the ink. Perhaps Joey is lying about that Henry being a recreation? (Or a continuity error)2) While Matpat says that Joey is also torturing Allison, I don’t think he is, at least not the real one. Again, pointing out that scene from chapter 5 where Allison said they couldn’t cross the ink river because they weren’t like Henry. That would imply that both Allison and Tom are soulless, so there isn’t any way that Allison in the ink world is the real Allison
Listen, the whole melding into the Ink doesn't mean anything honestly.I mean- we see like multiple butchered Clones of Boris and the Butcher Gang, still... there!But the Boris and the Butcher Gang Members we meet all melt. Now, why would they do that?Well, they most likely didn't wish to have multiple ragdoll Corpses to be rendered for the Game.
@Глеб Биляк Oh yeah.
@Lxttlecomfey I mean, ink creates *with* a soul can't touch it either, or atleast some. Alice in Chapter 3 in the first game mentions that IIRC. On that note, I think that Henry and Audrey are just special in that sense, compared to basically almost all other ink creatures.
@Holy Roman kinda hard to say- after all, while the story has established a clear difference between ink creatures with and without a soul, they’ve never really explicitly showed us ink creatures without a soul being able to touch ink. After all, the main trait of soulless ink creatures is that they can’t touch the ink,,,, it’d be a little weird to just have ONE soulless ink creature who can touch it
I'd love to see a theory about the 4 ruinous pokemon of paldea. I honest'y think they are tied into the regions history somehow at least based on their pokedex entry's.
Honestly the dark revival attempting to wash away the consistent narrative of Joey being an awful person (especially in the books) never sat right with me, so I would prefer this theory to be true.
Matt I really hope you got another one coming after this, cos I see a few holes in this theory
Matpat sure has been going on this streak of “the game was lying!” theories quite a bit lately, hasn’t he? First Golden Freddy wasn’t real and now Bendy lies.
This is the problem with Matpat he thinks too much about everything to the point that when they give him the story of something he says this is not the story It's not fun watching that It's annoying
He really has run out of ideas.
@Ricky glenn I know lol
@AxelTheGhost I’m just talking about in general
To be fair, it’s Joey Drew when has he NOT lied
Just want to point out the very first cutscene of the entire DLC perfectly parallels this entire theory of Joey Drew’s past coming back to haunt him.
I would really enjoy making a game and then watching MatPat get it completely wrong because he looked into random tidbits too much
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Even the name, “The Dark Revivial” has connections to the game as this is his moms “dark revivial”.
Matpat is so famous the devs mentioned his name.
One small thing you missed: Joey wasn’t salty when he sold over the rights to bendy, Nathan bought the rights from Joey’s estate when he died
@Electric Yeah, this theory was filled with holes that rendered it null. Audrey isn't Joey Drew's first attempt at a daughter, and I don't remember any confirmation that Tessa was dead when Bendy 1 takes places (the little girl at the end of that game who called Joey "uncle Joey" was one of his previous attempts). Also, Mat's previous theory on Bendy 1 literally notes that, as of when that game was happening, Allison Pendle was doing well with her husband (shown by the same letter that actually gets referenced in this theory, lol), so she couldn't have been killed to turn into Alice angel.
@R 2 H Potato Matpat
@Hades Kratos Nathan had no idea how the ink machine worked, and had it put on display at the Joey Drew Museum at the beginning of the game. No one at Archgate did, except for Wilson.
@Electric yeah, it is.
Doesn't this mean this theory is void? The timeline would be broken then.
I’m saddened that dadpat didn’t say “save yourself the trouble, order on the double” truly a sad day
Just a little small detail I thought I would mention, You say Audrey has a soul like all the other ink characters but she is different at one aspect from all of them.If I recall correctly they all have pupils only her eyes are blank, and you know what they say about eyes being windows to a persons soul. What if there is no window because there is no soul?
Bro you could literally become a detective with this skill
and thats just a theorya game theory!!!! i love your content mattpat
But Nathan Arch didn’t “pick the company’s bones dry” (which seems like a harsh way to frame him trying to preserve his friend’s legacy) until *after* Joey had died.
He probably bought them from the bank or whoever Joey owed money to - essentially paying Joey's debts to get the character rights
@Jinx Weird that they seem to imply that Nathan bought them from Joey, but if Joey wasn’t alive, then he just kinda… bought them I guess..
@Ready Pickles At that point I think he’d be paying the government?
@Soldier [TF2] Who did Nathan even buy them from at that point then? I’m unfamiliar with what rules apply there, but if Joey was dead, who does he pay to get the characters?
@Ready Pickles No, Nathan came up with the Idea *after* Joey died, he basically bought the Rights of the Cartoon since Joey was allready dead.And also don't forgot about the fact that Nathan bought Bendy in 1972, which was after Joey's Death in 1971. Honestly... how did he forget about that?
Four years ago you said: “This is the end of bendy and the ink machine” and here you are
7:27 me who is too broke to afford theorywear 30% discount: i got you fam.
Can you do a theory on the VR games Vacation Simulator and Job Simulator? I’d really like to know how you’d think humans went extinct in this universe. Love your videos!
I feel like mat pat will never stop making among us references no matter what anyone does to stop him.
In other words he needs to play some with callmekevin to see what happens
i really like how matpat gets straight to the point but i wished he did a joke at the beginning
"It's always mine to solve"
@Hamsterman Yeah, but he instantly went for his own Plot, flying in an Abyss with no Evidence to support it other than 'what if...', instead of something that atleast can hold some Ground.
@Marty McDonalds Collapsed relevance? In the last 6 months only 3 videos (including this one) have not hit over 1 million views, and most of them have over 3 million.
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The joke is that he's still making videos despite a collapsed relevance and no real content that isn't FNAF-related anymore.
Can I just say that I started laughing when Mat put in the Bendy books and said that no one would enjoy them, it just reminded me of his pain on the FNAF books.
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I've know Mat long enough to notice that his "**cough cough** Pokémon Violet" was really savage
I want to see matpat do a theory on how much Luke the notables land and how much he and his builds would cost
Hey Matpat, still also waiting on Petscop finale. Great video btw!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but based on Nathan Arch's audio logs, Joey was dead before Arch purchased the Bendy and Co IP. I believe as Joey didn't have an heir to his estate, Arch would have had to have purchased the rights from Gent. Unless I'm missing something
And hell, the final Act where you play as the Ink Demon (because Audrey fused with him) is symbolic.Both Audrey and the Ink Demon are one and the same, both souless and from the Ink, but have gone on different Paths and Choices.
Your are right
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Yes, this is an incredible weakspot of the Theory because Joey died cannonically in 1971, before Mr. Arch bought Bendy in 1972.And hell, wouldn't Nathan/Wilson Arch atleast notice and mention his Wife/Mother missing? Wouldn't he atleast do something about it?
I think you got it wrong.. if you read the book “bendy: the lost ones” you can learn that THOMAS CONNOR was working on the ink machine and also claims that he built it. That means Joey probably helped building it or he built it. Idk but if you read that book, you’ll understand some stuff.
Am I crazy, or did Gtlive not finish the game yet? I watched this and was so confused
I will defend the Bendy Books with all of my power. I hated reading but ‘Dreams Come to Life’ was the first book I WANTED to read myself
Fr that book made me cry
"Speaking of things you can wash! PLASMA BALL!"Yes matpat, because I totally wash my plasma ball
I actually had a theory that Wilson's mom went into Betty, the failed-not-as-failed Shipahoy Dudley attempt
hey Matpat, could you make a theory on the crow man from hello neighbor 2 and who it is that knocks you out at the end? your theories are awesome and i think it would be so cool
The theory of there being a part of a soul in Audrey would make sense with the mirror Easter egg. At the beginning of the game there's a mirror you can interact with in Audrey's office but interact with it too much and there's a ghost face jumpscare. It's very random but def fits with the soul theory!!
I would be hard pressed to use that Easter Egg for evidence, as Audrey doesn't seem to have any reaction for that jumpscare, like she's not aware of it, or nots actually happening. It may just be a fun quirk the devs put in.
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It's just a hot dog right? WRONG! it's actually the key to solve the whole lore for some reason
Yes finally! Someone is mentioning this! The story seemed alittle too suspicous for a old Bendy fan like me. Joey is a huge liar and I think he is lying about everything even being Audreys daughter because he wants to make himself look nice to everyone, like he saw himself, but no one saw him as! Also me and my friends have thought think he lied to Audrey about her being his daughter because he wants to get her on his side, like him and may still have a grudge aganist Henry even in hus Inky form. He is a well known liar to his employees/ to the fans who read the books and nothing he says should be trusts including everything he says about the studio and his backstory. Me and my friends have been talking about this nonstop since it came out and there so many points! I cant wait to see whats next in this series!Thankyou Matpat! 😊💙
@Black Night yeah . i think that most of matpats theory is a stretch
If that were the case, wouldn't he make himself out to be better?
Doesnt the ink demon confirm that Audrey is Joeys daughter when he says "Daughter of Drew" at the end of the game
@joshua kim finally someone else brings that up
@joshua kim That sounds accurate, tbh. The Ink Joey in the game isn't technically lying, because the Ink version of Joey genuinely believes what he's saying. There's also the silver lining that this means that the fake Joey DOES genuinely love Audrey as a daughter, unlike the real Joey who probably just used her as an experiment. Meaning that an incomplete fake has more sincerity and emotions than the supposed real deal.
There's game series called "The room" which I liked to play with my cousin as a child. It is very mysterious and it looks to have a lot of lore so would you maybe consider making a video about it? Ps I love your FNaF videos, and I can't wait for the next one
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It is possible the memories Audrey has are given to when she goes to the ink because she's connected to it
I would just like to say that this theory couldn't be right because joey made audrey before he died but nathon arch bought the rights to the bendy characters after joey dies, so joey would have no reason to use tessa to make audry. Other than that i liked the theory.
@Template006 exactly, so not only does it not make sense from a perspective of basic logic, but also the in game story
Its debunked because Nathan mentions his animation studio in the hotdog audiotape. Meaning that this took place after Nathan became owner of the Bendy IP. So Joey couldn't have taken Tessa because she was still alive after he passed.
@Rogelio A. Loya Nathan bought the franchise AFTER Joey died.
@R1chards0n In that scene, Wilson's expressing how he doubted the stories about the studio, but he now believes them. I'm paraphrasing, but he goes on to say "Despite how much that sounds like nonsense, here we are." and pulls out the proof that convinced him in the first place: a little living bendy trapped in a glass.
@liliespetals19 but the buy out happens before the tape where Nathan mentions Tessa, so if the theory was correct that means that he was giving a hot dog to his dead wife who would complain about him not following his diet after she died?
What about the secret end where you collect all the “Illusion of Living” books?
Love the lore👍
Thank you I’ve been waiting for this
you should do My SInging Monsters next. there's actually quite interesting lore
I guarantee MatPats room is actually a padded cell
@Noblesse Oblige Someone is salty. XD
Someone is salty. XD
@R 2 H you are a bot i saw you putting a link in another comment
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If Joey lied about the lore, I don’t think it’s a stretch to assume that he lied about “making a Henry to torture” I remember seeing a headline in the games canon stating “animator found dead at his desk” maybe Joey came over to Henry’s place, somehow took his life and extracted his soul to put in the machine.
I think Mat's just mad cause Joey already revealed everything
Or that he was not a part of "KZclipr audio logs™" and decided to went his frustrations.
0:12 here’s a little story…. about how I became the fresh prince of bel air.
0:21 I thought that was leading into a bad theory joke.
I love it when game developers (and those alike) are aware of MatPat and his theory crafting because game lore is important.. finding a deeper story and hidden meanings to events is added fun for the brain..
@Nat please doooo ill be here to support and buy
Matpat is one of the reasons why I want to make games in the first place bc of his obsession with lore, and has actually helped me put enough into them
Right! Sometimes it make a game worse but other times like this one they do a amazing job doing the lore. Before matpat games definitely didn’t have as much lore.
The fact that the bad guy looks like Walt Disney kind of scares me
matpat translating blurs in video games to explain an argument💀
Hi, could I ask you to start adding Czech subtitles as well? I would be grateful for that. Ps.: Video bylo vážně úžasné. Pss.: This was in Czech. Psss.: Because I am Czech.
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Bendy and the Dark Revival: This is our lore.Matpat: No, no it isn't.
Does this mean your not gonna make an episode 3 and so on and finish the game? Aw man.
The *CRAWMCH* when Joey got crushed made me wheeze laugh OMG
Another thing this theory blatantly ignores is that the Ink Demon calls Audrey the "Daughter of Drew" and he didn't here Joey's speech earlier in the game or he would've been hunting Audrey. He also has no motive to lie about this. So Audrey being Joey's daughter has to sources now. Also claiming that her soul must have been Wilson's mother is completely outlandish because for one thing I highly doubt he could get her to visit a friend of her husband's workplace and secondly it falls into fan theory "this offscreen character is the same gender as this character so they must be the same" energy.
Bro how is MatPat literally discovering more stuff than the whole community together??
“You have to have…heart” *CRAWMCH*Matt: It’s a nice story.
If Allison had a soul, She would’ve been able to pass the ink lake in BATIM Chapter 5 before the Bendy Boss Fight.
I really want more of the courage cowardly dog theories
No lie I was waiting for days for MatPat to cover this game. I could almost hear him in my ear: “The dark puddles whisper me secrets. They whisper me LOOOOOOOORRRE!!!”
THE LOOOOOOOOooooooore! (fading echoes.)
Basically everything is lying to us these days :"")
hay mat more lore on the back roomslol i love the back rooms
Joey Drew's VA sounds like the old man on Atlantis
Well the biggest thing I got out of this whole video, was that Nintendo had a bad release!
As terrible Joey was to his staff, I do feel bad with how he or his soul died. And happy his pencil and a dream came to life.
@D bearded1 But they're pretty much a perfect replica of you, albeit lacking a real soul.
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@Beef your old memories living on aren't the same as you being alive.
Technically he’s still alive since he put his memory’s in the machine and since we redid everything bendy didn’t kill the memory version.
you now I think it would be funney if the game theorists started to recommend a game of film that has not lore or complicated lore to matpat and gust watch him strudel in a 20 min video trying to find something to talk about.
Game: releases.Matpat: well, better get to work.
6:41. When drew says wait why am I down here is so funny
Hey mat could you do a theory on a game called rain world?It is a great game and is super underappreciated so It would be cool to check It out.
I don't think I've ever felt more intimidated when MatPat said that the hotdog was an important clue.
I don’t know about intimidating but it’s funny that out of everything given to us in the game THAT’S what ties everything together.😆
Here’s the full vid: that explains kzclip.net/video/5z0qjBxw2gE/бейне.htmlafter so long, it’s here.
Next thing you know, a single atom accidentally misplaced in Audrey's room would be the biggest clue to solving the Bendy franchise
I'd like to mention that Bendy was a failure because he had no soul. Considering Allison is the more perfect version of Alice than even Susie became, there is no way she doesn't have any soul
but what about bendys voicelines calling her a monster. wouldnt bendy know theres a soul in the body?
Hey, MatPat, you should make a clasic Bendy theory
Game gives a bunch of lore that is plausibleMatPat: Hey that's my job! *re-does it*
I love this story. It's a great anecdote to summarize and exemplify the importance of both artist and the person perceiving the art. Both intent and reception matter. I love that Sarah let her artistic intention be known, that John respected that, and that both have been open to experimenting with variations since then.
god bots have genuinely taken over KZclip
Eeeeeeehh?is this a +18 profile pic?heh,absolut bot
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Thank you Mat! I do enjoy your theories (in my opinion they’re one of the best type of theories I’ve ever seen) so please continue all the love ❤️
The creator lied to us...once again