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Forging Mosaic Canister Damascus, Pattern Welded Steel For Knifemaking, Bladesmithing


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  • Garet Konigsfeld
    Garet Konigsfeld 5 ай бұрын +3

    With these metal 3D printers I've wondered if you could make a repeatable patern with the powered steel. It would ki d of be like damasteel I guess but with carbon steel instead. You have awesome ideas thanks for sharing 👍.

  • Baby Hulk
    Baby Hulk 8 ай бұрын +6

    You should have added small ball bearings to those voids, that would have been a crazy looking pattern but you have some cool ideas with those patterns

  • J Waterous
    J Waterous 20 күн бұрын

    Interesting how the powdered steel seems to be darker on the edges of the rods after forge welding. Also how do you get water from forged steel?

  • Andrew Neilson
    Andrew Neilson  Жыл бұрын +1

    Great build, I really appreciate the technical details you include

  • Duncan Taylor
    Duncan Taylor 11 ай бұрын +2

    I’ve seen other videos on canister Damascus and a few that used powdered steel drilled a small hole in the end of the canister. They said that it was there to allow any gasses and other impurities that may form in the can an escape so they don’t end up in the final pattern. I’m not a blacksmith so I’m not sure if that’s needed but it may account for the water that was definitely visible when you were cutting the billet on the chop-saw. Also try drawing out the billet (after removing the can) to 1/2 size the pattern may be smaller but you could try a number of different techniques with the same amount of material.

  • Bryan Peeler
    Bryan Peeler  Жыл бұрын +2

    Really cool concept, you really have a great idea.... can’t wait to see the final knife with a mosaic pattern in the blade!

  • Quentin Waynick
    Quentin Waynick  Жыл бұрын +8

    I love that you include your mistakes and own them. Great work!

  • Nicholas Eedy
    Nicholas Eedy  Жыл бұрын +5

    Love these experiment videos, really coming up with some neat ideas.

  • MrSoloun
    MrSoloun  Жыл бұрын +2

    Good stuff, looking forward to seeing the blade and how the pattern looks in the end.

  • Andrew Beckner
    Andrew Beckner  Жыл бұрын +2

    Good content. Thanks for sharing. Will you be uploading a follow-up video? I'm sure I speak for a lot of folks who are interested to see how it turned out.

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge   Жыл бұрын

      Thanks for watching, yeah I need to make a knife out of the billet..

  • Satricia Colbert
    Satricia Colbert  Жыл бұрын

    I love canister damascus patterns... love watching your videos!

  • Douglas
    Douglas 9 ай бұрын +3

    Is there a "part 2" video? Great work man, congratz

  • Joshua Mcbride
    Joshua Mcbride  Жыл бұрын

    Random late question, why not use a canoe canister? You'd be able to dictate the pattern a lot easier. It would have allowed you to set each piece of the core pattern without fear of I getting too distorted when you do your welding passes.

  • Orin Sarabia
    Orin Sarabia  Жыл бұрын

    Nice job! Can't wait to see it become a blade

  • Robert Lukacs
    Robert Lukacs  Жыл бұрын

    Try this pattern again and use ball bearings as well. I believe the ball bearings will complete the look as well as turning the original pattern to the corners so the lines won’t be as noticeable off center.

  • car1878
    car1878  Жыл бұрын +1

    I like the idea but it might have a cooler designs if you put little ball Berings in the gaps before you put in the powdered steel

  • Wolf Party
    Wolf Party  Жыл бұрын

    Awesome job maaan!!
    It almost looks like a dogwood tree flower. Perfect for up coming Easter holiday dinner time!👍🏻
    Ps. I’m still waiting patiently for you to make the hammer, when your ready.🙏🏻💪🏼👍🏻👍🏻

  • Jackson Stubbs
    Jackson Stubbs  Жыл бұрын +1

    Really cool and unique. This pattern is a 1st for me. Well done!

  • Aleeknives
    Aleeknives  Жыл бұрын +1

    I love the experimentation process! Cool results man!

  • Jay Pearman
    Jay Pearman  Жыл бұрын +1

    I have been with you for a 1/2 a year and now have left alec steele due to lack of edged weapons, and wanted to say thank you for your channel and hard work.

  • Joe Thanks
    Joe Thanks 6 ай бұрын +1

    Can't wait to see the blade that is a interesting pattern 👍👍👍

  • pedro blattmann
    pedro blattmann 8 күн бұрын +1

    I have seen a video where they use Tipp-ex paint on the inside of the can and the shell comes right off when forging. I 100% belive this would work coz I use tipp-ex myself on my Goldsmith work when I don't want solder to flow every where

  • Timothy Juarez
    Timothy Juarez  Жыл бұрын +1

    That forge press works damn good from what I can see.

  • Keith Spencer Sr.
    Keith Spencer Sr.  Жыл бұрын +1

    Really think using steel ball bearings may have gave you a better look, good job.

  • Just The Mow
    Just The Mow  Жыл бұрын +2

    I have a question I see you used the white out as a barrier between the canister and the steel. Why not used a harden-able steel canister so you don’t have to remove it after the initial forging. It might add an extra mosaic layer. I do not forge but it’s something I’ve always wanted to ask when watching forged in fire.

  • Marc Weavers
    Marc Weavers 6 ай бұрын

    anyone ever suggested making damascus steel 'something' from all of the used canister parts? :D
    you could forge weld some thin pieces together back to back, then it will be thick enough to cut into cubes, have a cube based damascus steel knife

  • Sony H K
    Sony H K  Жыл бұрын +1

    It's working perfect, looking nice. Cheers 👍

  • Cat Daddy
    Cat Daddy  Жыл бұрын +1

    That pattern is very close to the forget-me-not flower pattern. My wife is a pro chef and her favorite flower happens to be the forget-me-not. I'd pay serious $ for a chef knife set if you could figure it out.

  • Philip Boyer
    Philip Boyer  Жыл бұрын +1

    Good job! Interesting pattern!

  • KBye
    KBye  Жыл бұрын +1

    You are doing some cool stuff! Awesome work!

  • Zach Newell
    Zach Newell  Жыл бұрын +1

    It's amazing just how handy a spoon can be

  • Son of Fenix
    Son of Fenix  Жыл бұрын +1

    Can you not get your hands on zircon paint (it'[s sold as a refractory protective coating over here)? Just pour some into the cannister, invert it and let it drain back. That'll give you a reasonably uniform coating on the interior.

  • The Patriot Paradox
    The Patriot Paradox  Жыл бұрын +1

    That 10-95 eating up those blades huh....enjoy watching the work. Wish I had more than propane, angle grinder a hammer and anvil at this point... lol BTW nice lines you laid down with that arc welder!

    KENBUILT79  Жыл бұрын +1

    Just a question, did you clean the inside of the steel before you applied the white out? If not maybe that is why it didnt stick well?
    I found that the "Dollar Tree" has BIC White out for only $1/ea and that is much cheaper than anywhere else i have found. A 2 pack at Amazon is $3.90/ea!

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge   Жыл бұрын +1

      I cleaned it with acetone.. maybe it's the brand.. Anyway, I've had good luck with white spray paint since this video

  • Ufuk GÜL
    Ufuk GÜL  Жыл бұрын +1

    hello, thank you for the nice video, what is the powder you poured into the iron mold?

  • jlee353
    jlee353  Жыл бұрын +1

    Just saw the video and looked through your other vids. Have you finished this one yet? No rush. Just curious how it turns out.

  • JJ CC
    JJ CC  Жыл бұрын +1

    That can came out really clean and easy, unlike a certain TV show .
    Had seen the white outbefore , but not the foil.
    Good pattern and a great idea!
    Perhaps make the pattern a bit smaller (say, half a knife wide) so you can repeat in a 4x2 pattern perhaps?
    Whenever you get a pattern you like, I can see it usefull to make a longer pipe and stock for 2-3 knives :)

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge   Жыл бұрын

      Thanks! I thought about drawing the bar out and quadrupling the pattern, which would have been cool but I wanted to keep it a little lower tech this first time around.

  • Jonathan Kaufold
    Jonathan Kaufold 5 ай бұрын

    I would love to know how much the billet weighs in the beginning and how much is lost at the end. I'm just curious

  • Chris V
    Chris V  Жыл бұрын +7

    Now stuff some small little ball bearings down the next canister and compare the patterns. Nice work

    • The Patriot Paradox
      The Patriot Paradox  Жыл бұрын

      I kinda thought the same thing, but still like to see how this turns out.

  • bward okc
    bward okc  Жыл бұрын +1

    Awesome pattern ... Thanks for sharing👍

  • Anthony Strunk
    Anthony Strunk  Жыл бұрын +3

    That's cool man.. the possibilities are endless with patterns and materials you can use for that.. great video!

  • jerry henderson
    jerry henderson 11 ай бұрын

    You should try making a canister out of plaster or cement , and then you wouldn't need to worry about paint or foil . Like a FZ knives does all his in wootz steel builds .

  • Steven Jennings
    Steven Jennings  Жыл бұрын

    Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls God Bless Ya 🙏

  • jones N
    jones N  Жыл бұрын

    It turned out good I've been having luck with the white primer I just spray the can twice

  • Percy Jackson
    Percy Jackson 11 ай бұрын

    When casting bullets It is recommended to cover the inside of the mold with soot from a flame to prevent the lead from sticking to it. Would this work for this process.
    * disclaimer: I know nothing about this topic other than what I see you doing on the videos.*

  • Bloody Prophecy
    Bloody Prophecy 5 ай бұрын

    @5:38 have you ever tired using all the steel shavings from all the grinding instead of powdered steel? I mean it goes into a bucket most places ive seen, why not try that?

  • Irfaan Pinheiro
    Irfaan Pinheiro  Жыл бұрын

    Maybe next time you can try to pack the container with the powder steel and then place your design in…Using the powder steel as a brace of some sort

  • dlstanf2
    dlstanf2  Жыл бұрын +5

    Use plain Milk of Magnesium to keep the metal from sticking to the sides. What jet aircraft engines hot sections & afterburner sections used on the bolt to keep the nuts from forging together.

    • jackass315
      jackass315  Жыл бұрын

      i wondered about plain aluminium foil , would form alu oxide

  • Robert Ryden
    Robert Ryden 4 ай бұрын +1

    I wonder,,,, what pattern you would get if you put a different steel powder in each section????

  • outbackladas
    outbackladas  Жыл бұрын +1

    It’s looking good, the final pattern in the blade will look awesome. Regards from Down Under

  • roomwithapointofview
    roomwithapointofview  Жыл бұрын +5

    So I go around recommending all kinds of crazy ideas. One has been involving nuts and bolts.
    Shurap, one of the guys I watch, did a pattern of nuts and bolts but his orientation was short bolts in nuts side by side horizontally.
    My thinking was longer bolts, say six inches, all thread with nuts of different grades thread onto the bolt.
    I'm thinking a large bolt, at least one inch, but also a canister job with smaller bolts, but many of them.
    The question is, will it weld fast enough to avoid a void between the nut and blot as it is flattened? Or twisting.
    Wish I had found this stuff earlier in life as it isn't too late and actually have a couple knives I had been working on, one inherited project my dad was working on, but not welded Damascus, but I'm running out of runway, so to speak, but with a million ideas on how to create patterns..
    Latest, canister with different sizes and grades of cable, mixed with nuts and bolts and round and square rod, all mixed in a canister with some powder.
    Also, after watching how Shurap arranged them, what about a nut with a ball bearing in the center, flat and horizontal, powder and then another level/row.?
    This one, this pattern you just did makes me wonder if you could create letters and then mix and match to spell things?
    Who wouldn't want a knife with their name forged into it?

  • Dr Dysl3xia
    Dr Dysl3xia 6 ай бұрын +1

    You're very impressive to observe. My computer skills are no match for your knowledge.

  • DG Undead Forge
    DG Undead Forge  Жыл бұрын +2

    I like your videos, just finished watching how to soften tang to drill video. I just finished a nice small integral guard but tang is hard. Will heeping blade portion in water help keep it from heating while i soften the tang?

    • Robert Lukacs
      Robert Lukacs  Жыл бұрын

      What about clay to stop the heat from traveling?

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge   Жыл бұрын +1

      Yep, that should be fine. I recommend getting the tang up to your target heat as quickly as possible; the heat has less time to travel up to the blade that way.

  • Richard Schneider
    Richard Schneider  Жыл бұрын +1

    I would add chrome steel bearings and powdered steel to the can

  • Bigfoot Dude
    Bigfoot Dude  Жыл бұрын +1

    Great video, you could call this billet the shamrock. You have a row of 4 leaf clover.

  • Richard Hope
    Richard Hope  Жыл бұрын +1

    Instead of "correction fluid" why not use "good quality" white paint, the white pigment is Titanium Dioxide (in cheap / poorer quality paints it can be Zinc Oxide). Going to be a bit hit or miss which type of paint to use as some have more plastics than others to bind the finally dried paint but it will bond to the inside wall of your can far better. Just a thought.

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge   Жыл бұрын

      @Richard Hope thanks, i bought some for another project that is supposed to be good stuff, and it says zinc; some paints don’t say either way so hard to know..

    • Richard Hope
      Richard Hope  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Fire Creek Forge I was lead to believe all the good quality white paints are Titanium Dioxide, stays white, whereas Zinc Oxide is a bit grey and gets greyer with age. If I come across any, I'll let you know the make (I am in UK).

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge   Жыл бұрын +1

      Yes I'd thought of that, haven't been able to find any titanium dioxide content paint yet...

  • Billy Ray Davis
    Billy Ray Davis 7 ай бұрын

    Looks like it ought to be good to me wish I had the extra money to make a order with you I really like and appreciate your work what kind of large bowie could I get for say 600.00 please let me know what we can work out

  • Роман Романовский

    я не специалист, но разве не нужно было просверлить отверстие чтобы вышел расширенный нагревом воздух?

  • JayJay88
    JayJay88  Жыл бұрын +2

    I like how chilled your videos are dude.

  • Fett Mane III
    Fett Mane III  Жыл бұрын +1

    wow it looks like it was 15n20 powder and 1095 sheet

  • Nigel de la Vega
    Nigel de la Vega  Жыл бұрын +1

    Try it again but instead of all steel powder add some ball bearings in the mix

  • Kevin Rodriguez
    Kevin Rodriguez 6 ай бұрын

    Me after watching forged in fire show: "oh man he's going really aggressive on that second pass"

  • Gustav Fraser
    Gustav Fraser  Жыл бұрын

    Looks awesome

  • manny
    manny  Жыл бұрын +1

    have you tried putting the empty canister in the forge to develope scale inside it so the billet doesnt stick.

  • kade havens
    kade havens  Жыл бұрын +2

    Anyone else just like his videos before even watching because you know it’s going to be kick ass?

  • Mountain Man Steel
    Mountain Man Steel  Жыл бұрын

    You're quick with the press, did you get a foot pedal on it yet man?

  • Jeremy Curtis
    Jeremy Curtis 10 ай бұрын

    Yeah fill those open areas up with any kind of metal stuff be it little screws, bearings, fishhooks, and or little lock washers

  • The#1NateDawg
    The#1NateDawg  Жыл бұрын +1

    This is gunna be so cool. Good job brother

  • TheKennonprua
    TheKennonprua  Жыл бұрын +1

    Great work. Just came across your channel.

  • J Leão
    J Leão  Жыл бұрын +1

    use a difus filter for the camera for the welding parts

  • Max Mouse
    Max Mouse 6 ай бұрын +1

    I've watched a few of your videos now where you try white out, foil and ultimately settle on white paint... Why don't you just not worry about any of that, do it as it is then band saw the box section off after forging?

    • Max Mouse
      Max Mouse 6 ай бұрын

      @Fire Creek Forge interesting, well I've seen it work really well so can't fault you on it - tried white enamel paint or pottery glaze (glaze the inside of the can and fire it to make a glass layer) or even a watered down clay liner?
      Sorry, kinda fixated on this one lol I'd watch a video exploring different ideas on it.

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge  6 ай бұрын

      I think the white paint is easier for several reasons, plus saves on bandsaw blades

  • Gioele Averna
    Gioele Averna 9 ай бұрын

    what is the name of the liquid where you put the piece of steel?

  • Alan Speert
    Alan Speert  Жыл бұрын +1

    Could you use a stainless steel can to make peeling the can off

  • Rian Huizar
    Rian Huizar  Жыл бұрын +17

    You should really stop touching the etching acid with your bare hands. Aside from the obvious danger of chemical burns, that stuff can be absorbed into the body and cause untold problems down the line.

    • rip607
      rip607 2 ай бұрын +1

      @Rich Molon labe yah people should stop trying to help others.

    • Rich Molon labe
      Rich Molon labe 5 ай бұрын +1

      You should Mind you’re business .. 😂

    • Jonathan Kaufold
      Jonathan Kaufold 5 ай бұрын +3

      I love these type of comments

  • Daniel Clawson
    Daniel Clawson  Жыл бұрын +2

    Interesting that the 15n20 etched dark.

    • Daniel Clawson
      Daniel Clawson  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Fire Creek Forge Yes. But even with that, it should have been lighter than all of the other steels right?

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge   Жыл бұрын +1

      Yeah and I think the ferric chloride solution was too strong so that contributed I think

  • Sledder
    Sledder  Жыл бұрын +1

    Very cool!!!!!

  • Crash Corpse
    Crash Corpse  Жыл бұрын +1

    bet some chopsticks might be useful for moving that foil back into shape. you'd have a point, flat end and a edge to push it into corners and the length to maneuver deeper into the can.

  • oneshot_me
    oneshot_me  Жыл бұрын +1

    Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • Matt Graham
    Matt Graham 6 ай бұрын +2

    What happened with this? Did you make something with it? If so I can't find the video.

  • Самат Байгул
    Самат Байгул  Жыл бұрын

    Задумка хорошая но надо было вытянуть чтобы узор мельче был

  • Octavio Sanchez
    Octavio Sanchez 11 ай бұрын

    Is there a part 2?

  • Ironsteve2711
    Ironsteve2711  Жыл бұрын +1

    What’s the foil for and what material is the foil?

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge   Жыл бұрын

      Stainless steel foil, to keep the contents for m welding to the canister

  • Sam Grubbe
    Sam Grubbe 8 ай бұрын +1

    First time I have seen your beard! I'm jealous! It's the best ever

    NORTHBROOK1978  Жыл бұрын +1

    Could you beed blast the interior of a can ?..thus helping the white out to stick..

  • Nate Dawg
    Nate Dawg  Жыл бұрын

    👍cool pattern.

  • Nunya Argo
    Nunya Argo  Жыл бұрын +2

    Stupid question. But wouldn't a metal zip tie be a better idea due to the heat generated from the welding? Sry, just getting into BSing at 40 yrs old and trying to make sure I'm doing it correctly, tnx!

    • Nunya Argo
      Nunya Argo  Жыл бұрын +2

      @Fire Creek Forge tnx brother! Fingered it wouldn't hurt to ask lol

    • Fire Creek Forge
      Fire Creek Forge   Жыл бұрын

      Yes, however it wasn't on long enough for that to happen...

  • Norman Sandds
    Norman Sandds  Жыл бұрын

    Try backing your s/s foil first you mite get a pleasant surprise

  • gregory h
    gregory h  Жыл бұрын +1

    Sir. Have you try using Stainless Steel Hose Clamps, so there not some much Welding? I am just asking. I saw a Blacksmith doing it and she the only one so Far?

  • Joshua Fifis
    Joshua Fifis  Жыл бұрын

    You definitly need a hacksaw to cut the pieces.

  • jeff whitehead
    jeff whitehead 7 ай бұрын +1

    what brand of spoon do you use?

  • Bamadan Knives
    Bamadan Knives  Жыл бұрын +1

    Looks like you got good looking billet!!

  • benji3900
    benji3900 6 ай бұрын

    You really need a band saw. Or if you have one, you need to use it instead of that grinder

  • Musashi Senku
    Musashi Senku 11 ай бұрын

    Sell me that billet if you havent already forged it again!

  • Lee Mitchell
    Lee Mitchell  Жыл бұрын +1

    A Porta-band would waste less material and easy to find used, especially in Texas LOL

  • Donald Duck
    Donald Duck  Жыл бұрын +3

    4leaf clover pattern just in time for st Patrick’s day

  • Tabris
    Tabris  Жыл бұрын +1

    Regular white spray paints mostly use titanium dioxide as a pigment, just use that instead of expensive ass liquid paper. Literally the same thing.

  • Jonathan Hoover
    Jonathan Hoover 5 ай бұрын

    Hey man!
    I just read your message on your channel and I am so happy to hear that you are a Christian!!
    Watching your videos I wondered...you can tell a Christian. 👍👍

  • johnathan goldsworthy
    johnathan goldsworthy 4 ай бұрын

    if you want to use white out use rice or baking paper on top of the white out garentied never to stick ever !

  • Bobby Hempel
    Bobby Hempel  Жыл бұрын

    Looks like you got your steels mixed up.

  • Валентин Костюк
    Валентин Костюк 6 ай бұрын +1

    You need some kind of band-saw