Please go resarch battle of Gvozdansko in Croatian - Turkish wars. The battle is so brutal that Turkish general admire defenders and give them proper funeral
@Albatros 33 watch Ertrugul and Osman Turkish docudramas with English subtitles it you don't speak Turkish.The 1200s during the founding of the Empire.
@Valentino Jelencic I think that is not according to the legend but that it came later from the song which Zajec implemented in his opera. Details and quotes about the battle that we know about come mostly from one of the 7 survivors Franjo Crnko who was Zrinskis camerlegno and chronicler abd who wrote the book afterwards
One of the world's first opera is Šubić Zrinski Acording to legend Zrinski's last word's were : u boj u boj mač i slava braćo(boj is battle with overwlming ods) Eng : to battle, to battle sword ang glory brother's And if you have ever seen Croatian nacional football team you can still hear those words shouted by fans U boj, u boj In eng :
As a Turk, I admired Zrinski for his superior effort and courage. He bravely defended Zigetvar against the Turkish army much larger than him and died. The life of our Sultan Suleyman was spent on horseback and on expeditions. He died during his last expedition. Undoubtedly, Sultan Suleyman is a magnificent leader and has written his name in gold letters in Turkish and world history. may Zrinski and Sultan Süleyman rest in peace.
Nikola Šubić Zrinski comes from an old Croatian noble family which is one of the Twelve noble tribes of Croatia and a great noble house that constituted Croatian statehood in the Middle Ages. They held the county of Bribir (Varvaria) in inland Dalmatia. From them branched the prominent Zrinski family. Count Nikola IV Zrinski (born 1508) was the Ban of Dalmatia, Slavonia and Croatia, the commander of Szigetvár (from 1561), and the Habsburg commander in western Hungary (from 1563). He is considered the most courageous and prominent member of the Zrinski family, which together with the Frankopans was the most distinguished and famous noble family in Croatian history.
@Radogost Hopefully that is still allowed to spell the great name of Count Zrinyi in the Hungarian language, but as you can see from the 72 comments above we did have a great debate about this to my great surprise . There seems to be no progress between the Croatian leadership to reconcile their differences with Hungary . The clock is ticking and there is no progress I think it is very unfortunate for both countries. It would be great to see our Brother Nations to join the Visegradi 4 (V4). It seems to me the electors of Croatia might have to shake the tree and demand that progress be made towards closer economic ties, culminating in a form of union as demonstrated within the V4 grouping.
@Kayser are you trying to argue against me or the entire concept of this video series? skanderburg is known for being a resilient and resourceful leader who lasted out far longer than he should against far superior forces. if you didnt know that, i recommend watching kings & generals!
Zrinskis great-grandson, Peter Zrinski, was also a military mastermind, in 1663 he ambushed around 10 000 bosnian/otoman raiders with only around 2500 men, 8000 enemies were killed
@Radogost from after the battle of maritsa river 1371. which servians lost despicably and shamefully to up until the berlin congress in 1878. - all in all 507 years of muslim yoke for you😂😂😂😂😂😂 You can't change history by simply lying...... we know😎
@Fusrod Fos first i have to pay you a tribute for your honesty, indeed it was 354 years, not 500 like croatian fascists want us to believe. Second, yes it is a loss, every single one of your neighbours hates you now, Islam is now considered to be an evil religion, try going anywhere outside of the muslim world and tell me how the people usually react to someone from that culture. I dont think you guys are that bad right now, there are far worse peoples/nations around the world...
The brother of Peter, named Nikola/Miklós was also a great commander and one of the best authors of the baroque era. He wrote a grand epic about the heroic defense of his great grandfather, published in 1647-48 titled "Szigeti Veszedelem". The epic was translated to croatian by the aforementioned Peter
@Radogost I'm not blaming anyone... The great war, which went on to become a global conflict, was mainly due to Germany. I'm just saying that this was on of the causes of friction between Austria and Serbia, which was used as a pretext in the great war.
Nikola Šubić Zrinski was a Croatian noble in charge of a fortress in Hungary. He had enlarged prepared his garrison for just this; it numbered 2500 troops, about a third of them Hungarian, the rest being Croatian. He has been celebrated since as a hero both by Croatians and Hungarians (they call him Miklos Zrinyi). In the late 19th century his deeds were made into an opera by Ivan pl. Zajc (a rather good one). By a freak occurrence, the finale of this work was spread to Japan at the end of WW1 by some Austro-Hungarian sailors; the Japanese learned it by heart, but would not learn of its origin for another 60 years after 10 years of research. Today it is the anthem of the prestigious Kwansei Gakuin University in Kobe.
@Ivan The Šubići-Bribirski family originates from Bribir in the Šibenik hinterland. They were the most powerful Croatian noble familyduring the time of Ban Pavle II, who was the only one in history to achieve that his son Mladen II inherited the ban title-Later, they moved their headquarters to Zrin, so they became the Šubići-Zrinski family. Nikola moved his headquarters to Novi Zrin in Međimurje, and one of the points of peace was the demolition of Novi Zrin.
@Kkkkk you should be ashamed for spreading false narrative and polluting the comment space with absolute nonsense. Magdalena Zrinska born Széchy was the wife of Juraj V Zrinski. She was the mother of Nikola VII. Zrinski. Nikola VII Zrinski was great grandson of Nikola Šubić Zrinski. Yes, Šubić, the famous croatian/dalmatian noble family. Fascinating how our "dear" neighbours tend to purposly exclude major facts for only them known reasons.
@Kkkkk Zrinski 100% Croat!!! Mother was Karlović father Šubić. You Hungarians have complex as you didn’t have to fight as you had Croats fighting for you.
I am ashamed of Hungarians and Croats of today arguing about a siege in which they cooperated so well together, especially of Hungarians, being myself Hungarian. I think the Treaty of Trianon is the major culprit in making us forget that for 800 years we were friends. Funny we don't have now these arguments with the Turks but between ourselves. A thought also to the great Suleyman, who died there, although he was a ruthless murderer as are all the great conquerors of history...
@Józsi Nagy funny how you guys tend to exclude that he was born from Šubić family, famous croatian/dalmatian noble family. Also, you mention ironically, "is there a authentic source for this 95%" and then in the same line you pollute the comment space with a complete nonsense how, I quote, "Zriny never called himself Nikola Zrinski, nor did his contemporaries". Where are your sources? You can try to falsificate our history (which you've been doing for centuries in Austro-Hungary, but you will never succeed. Most of the Croats are aware of their history, good or bad. Your propaganda won't work. Did not work then and it won't work now.
Kings and Generals thank you from a croat for covering this battle. You have no idea what it means to me, a history fanatic, to see this event about my small but proud country on your channel. Thank you!
These types of battles are what I love about history and warfare. Nothing is more badass then being outnumbered and laughing in the face of death, before fighting to the last man. God bless the heroes of Szigetvar.
@Crvenkapica IV. ZNG at the end we got the last laugh we destroyed you and your friends even in battle where we were outnumbered like belgrade battle TURKIYE TURKIYE!
This is what the Croatian military borderr is used to. Hopelessly outnumbered, grinning contemptuously in the face of the enemy and death. That's what my ancestors (all military borderers) did for more than 400 years. Laughed in the face of the Ottoman Empire. I did that myself in 1991/92 against the Serbs. Das ist es, woran der kroatische Militärgrenzer gewohnt ist. Zahlenmäßig hoffnungslos unterlegen, dem Feind und den Tod verachtend ins Gesicht grinsen. Das haben meine Vorfahren (allesamt Militärgrenzer) mehr als 400 Jahre lang getan. Dem Osmanischen Reich ins Gesicht gelacht. Das habe ich selbst 1991/92 gegenüber den Serben gemacht.
Most famous Croatian stand off. Glorious Croatian noble Nikola Subic Zrinski. I wish more people learn about this. That final explosion killing few thousands yannisaries was intentional. There was a person inside that lit the fuse leading to massive explosion.
Brothers forever🇭🇺❤🇭🇷 Zrinski's speech before the final charge: “Let us go out from this burning place into the open and stand up to our enemies. Who dies, he will be with God. Who dies not, his name will be honored. I will go first, and what I do, you do as well. And God as my witness - I will never leave you, my brothers and knights!”
@Oğuz Kağan Önder Not true, a few dozen of soldiers were captured and only 7 werent executed and were exchanged. Franjo Crnko, Berto Gereci, Stjepan Orsic, Gaspar Alapic and 3 soldiers. Franjo Crnko was Zrinskis chronicler and secretary and he wrote a book about the siege later. Most we know today about it we know it from there. The book is "Podsjedanje i osvajanje Sigeta"
@Enes Akhan You die only once. You can runaway or stand and fight. He chose to fight. By doing this he will be remembered for his bravery. This spirit of heroism echoed in Croatia 1991-1995.
All that I can say to Croatian bro's: Thanks to joined and lead the army of Szigetvar (gave us Miklós Zrínyi). What an epic battle was that (20.000 losses for the Ottoman army, unfortunately almost the entire defender army died) . This is one of the reason why I'm really happy that the Hungarian army modernization program called Zrinyi 2026.
Sandor Kovacs Just don’t forget that Hungary 🇭🇺 is an observer country at Turkic Council (Ural-Altaic Kurultaj) Hopefully Huns of Attila and, Bulgars of Volga 🇧🇬 will be strong again, religions age is over, Hajra Turan!
Respect for Zrinski for his superior effort and courage. Even after they all were killed, they manage to kille 3000 more, that's just insane. It must been rigged or some suicide bomber, that did that. So many interresting stories and people that gave their life that is out their, it should be a Hollywood movie but unfortunely Hollywood only do same movie over and over, is sad.
He is in the hungarian textbooks too, along with his great-grand son (also) Nikola Zrinski, who was a famous poet, writer and military commander. The Zrinski family is well liked in Hungary too, as many of them held the title of comes of Zala and Somogy counties in Hungary, captains of hungarian transdanubia, or even the captain of all hungarian forces, like the Nikola mentioned above.
The last charge of Zrinski reminds me of helms deep when aragorn rallies the troops to ride out one more time. Sad that there was no Gandalf to help Zrinski.
Gandalf arrives in the shape of Sobieski, 117 years later. I suspect that's where Toliken got his 'inspiration' from; although he would've more than probably staunchly denied it if queried.
@LuftWaffe ME 109bf saying the Ottomans had the same values as the west is ridiculous pluralistic history. It’s not absurd to say that this battle saved western civilization. Had the Ottomans conquered Europe then it would have been a total change to their values, culture and morals. If both sides were the same as you claim then they wouldn’t be fighting
@LuftWaffe ME 109bf it’s ok to support a side if you think that side was more in the right. Only support both sides of you think both sides are equally justified.
@Kkkkk" Ego mihi conscius aliter sum, etenim non degenerem me Croatam et quidem Zrinium esse scio " his grandson in a letter to zagreb župan in 1659. The very same zrinski who wrote first hungarian epic.... You are bore
@Don't search Documenting Reality Not to underestimate the bravery of the defenders but it is worth noting that the sources for the Siege of Szigetvár are primarily written by Hungarian and Croatian chroniclers, who may have had a bias in favor of the Croatian defenders and may have been inclined to exaggerate the number of Ottoman casualties. Additionally, the number of casualties may have been inflated due to the confusion and chaos of the battle, making it difficult to accurately count the number of deaths.
@Mai Zen the ottoman also gave heavy casulties to their enemies in mohacs, belgrade,varna ,kosovo,nicopolis,remember when a small ottoman army of 8000 led by mustafa pasha defeated austrian army of 45000 and killing more than 20000 ,remember in 1371, only a thousand turks defeated the serbian massive army of 70000 althrough killing their king in maritsa .and bro ottoman casulties at vasalui were 20,000 at sakender rebellion were 50,000 at malta were 27,000 according to europeans while according to ottomans their casaulties at malta were 10,000
@sidjdykak jskdnejdif The janissaries were a professional force.....the rest of the army was not professional. Many were levies. They weren't like the the Prussians who trained every boy how to load and fire in a record time. Or how the English had every boy train to fire a longbow. Or like the Legions of Rome. Most countries didn't have a professional army till the mid 1500's and destruction of feudalism.
Interesting facts about battle of Siget in 1566: 1. In the early stages of the battle Zrinski and his knights would ride out to raid Suleimans army and would come back to the fort with the heads of the Turks they killed tied to their horses. 2. After refusing the offer of surrender Zrinski said to the defenders the reason why he refused the offer of becoming the overlord of whole croatia, he said: "No one will ever point at my children in discontent" 3.Before the last stand and the breach to a heroic death Zrinski embroidered gold coins inside his robes as a reward to the man who kills him. 4. He sentenced to death some of the inhabitants for looting during the fires and chaos of the battle
@supertotwtact 77 I will tell you only this we destroyed you even in battles we were outnumbered and that wasnt a siege sieges are always harder and need way more soldiers than the defenders in the end you surrendered like the weak slav you are keep crying 500 years just us against all of you :)
@Ante D dobro nisu bas na milijune malo pretjerujes 😂😂a sto se tice asimilacije asimilirali smo i mi madjare malnar prezime npr a ima ih jos dosta to je sve normalno ako ces o asimilaciji horvata onda moras i sloveniju spomenuti i slovacku a boga mi i cesku a to su sve nase prijateljske zemlje i tako ce ostati zauvijek ne mozemo vrijeme vratiti nikako kao sto ima asimiliranih od navedenih nacija medju hrvatima tako je i obrnuto...sto se tice subica sluzbeno uce u skolama da je bio porijeklom Hrvat, mozda 5 posto madjara tvrdi da je madjar porijeklom, i to valjda oni najzesci nacionalisti..a nije mi samo jasno kako mozes u isto vrijeme volit subica i ne volit madjare kad ih je i sam subic jako volio i smatrao za nas najbratskiji narod?
Mislim, manje-vise dobro se slazemo tu u Baranji i sjevernoj Slavoniji i Osijeku, ali to je samo lokalno prijateljstvo i definitivno se ne odnosi na cijelu Hrvatsku. I činjenica je da su Mađari na crno nama prodavali oruzje za vrijeme embarga na Jugoslaviju 90-ih
@UNS GUS dobar savjet gospon. A po tim evropskim kljigama Madari nama nikad nisu bili prijatelji niti su to danas. Nikad se nisu mogli pomiriti sa cinjenicom, da smo mi Hrvati slobodan, suveren narod. Izgleda, da je to i vama promaklo. Ako su vam Madari najbolji prijatelji izvolite se preseliti u Madarsku.
@Google Account zna on dobro da je u krivu. To je sve dio hibridnog ratovanje. Laziranje povijesti. A gdje poceti nego na internetu, gdje raja najvise vremena provodi. Pa nece u knjiznici, ipak je tintu teze obrisati. Onda se jos kakav stranac uhvati za"parangal", pa kud ces ljepse publike za pokusaj ispiranja mozga. Pa zar nije zanimljivo kako 'vise' po video uratcima koji govore o povijesti susjednih zemalja (Hrvatske, Bosne i Hercigovine, Crne Gore) i pokusavaju pobiti povijesne cinjenice. Covjek se zapita, cemu takva mrznja ;)
@Safet Sabani zna on Safete dobro da je u krivu. To je sve dio hibridnog ratovanje. Laziranje povijesti. A gdje poceti nego na internetu, gdje raja najvise vremena provodi. Pa nece u knjiznici, ipak je tintu teze obrisati. Onda se jos kakav stranac uhvati za"parangal", pa kud ces ljepse publike za pokusaj ispiranja mozga. Pa zar nije zanimljivo kako 'vise' po video uratcima koji govore o povijesti susjednih zemalja (Hrvatske, Bosne i Hercigovine, Crne Gore) i pokusavaju pobiti povijesne cinjenice. Covjek se zapita, cemu takva mrznja ;)
@PsychoBurner666 I will explain it to you. Very simple, @samo covek is a frustrated Serb. They are spreading false narrative over the internet and media for years. Trying to falsificate the history of neighbourhood countries. Typical "hybrid warfare". Preparation for something major that will happen in a few decades from now. Let us not be naive, there are numerous number of people that are even getting paid for spreading false narrative on the internet.
He was hungarian. I know that you do not have own history. And you must stole historic heroes from other countries like. But croatia has his own heros.
On one university in Japan, a song U Boj, from Opera Nikola Subic Zrinski is popular and all graduates are singing it. It is interesting how they learned about the song.. After the I WW, ship from Austrian Navy, was stuck in one coastal city in Japan, needed maintenance & repair, so the sailors stayed there for some time. Most of the sailors were Croats, Checks, Hungarians etc, and since they would sing a song about Zrinski, locals learnt it as well. Just recently, few years ago, the quire from Japanese university visited Croatia and sung the song about Zrinski, that they learnt from sailors after I WW. They performed in national opera house in Zagreb, and their performance was more then stunning.
True. For a long time Japanese didnt know that it is Croatian song. When they found out and what it say, they said that it was deeply emotional for them. And for a reason - main principles of bushido can be applied here, because Zrinski lived by similar principles. He said - it is better to die honorable death than live dishonorable life.
For those claiming Zrinski to be Hungarian, Nikola IV Šubić Zrinski was 100% Croatian. His father Nikola III Zrinski was a Croat and his mother was Jelena Karlović from the Croat tribe Gusić, parents were Croats, born in Croatia. Šubićs are a old Croat noble family. His father Nikola III is known for his attendance of the 1527 election in Cetin when Ferdinand I, Archduke of Austria was chosen by the Croatian nobility as the new king of Croatia. Among the seals of six Croatian noblemen on the charter confirming the election, there is also his seal.
@David Szakacs The problem for Croatia starts after ottoman conquest...when habsburg reconquered 90 percent of Hungary and only 20 percent of Croatia(whole bosnia was under ottomans, dalmatia, istra under venice). So Croatians became inferior to Hungarians in numbers, but they were always two crowns Hungarian crown and Croatia et Dalmatia crown.
@David Szakacs it was more complicated then what you say about Croatia belonging to Hungary. Some parts were under Venice some parts were idependente as Bosnian Kingdom...but bro Croatia and Hungary were in personal union. It was more of a merge then takeover. Example of Croatian authonomy is the situation where Croatians pick their own king Ladislaus of Naples amd crown him in Biograd.
@David Szakacs was fighting for habsburgs....if croatia fought on mohacs for hungarian crown( lie...it was personal union) then every battle after mohacs was fought for habsburg crown.
Nikola Šubić Zrinski and his men are true heroes of their time. He is immortal and in company with true God now, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit and all the heavenly host. He is an embodiment of true christian, a knight. Thanks K&G, I was waiting for this for a long time. Greeting from Croatia! +++ DEUS VULT +++
I don't think they expected to be short as Szigetvar is a though castle composed of 3 different islands. Plus, their enemy knew the territory better than them, they probably expected to have more casualties but maybe not that many. This was Suleiman's last attempt to die as a soldier rather than on his deathbed. But, it made a great history and gave change Hungarians to defend their castle bravely.
I can't of course verify that this siege was a direct tactical inspiration, but it is remarkably similar to the siege of Mesologgi during the greek war of independence 250 years later. The defenders even sallied out against the ottoman-egyptian army and a lot of them even made it out. This event is also immortalised in many paintings which also look similar to the picture shown in the video. Man, I hope we get to see that event later on in the series.
@ThePtoleme As a child, I asked an old man (who served in WW I under my great-grandfather), why are we so few? "Whoever remains on the battlefield at 20 or 22 leaves no children, no heirs," he replied. For more than those 400 years mentioned above, no one in my family knew his grandfather. Over time, we became less and less. Als Kind habe ich einen alten Mann (der im I. WW unter meinem Urgroßvater gedient hat) gefragt, warum sind wir so wenige? "Wer mit 20 oder 22 auf dem Schlachtfeld liegen bleibt, hinterlässt keine Kinder, keine Erben" hat er mir geantwortet. Mehr als diese 400 oben erwähnten Jahre lang, kannte niemand in meiner Familie seinen Großvater. Mit der Zeit wurden wir immer weniger.
It's fascinating to see so many similarities in the course of events between the siege of Szigetvar and the siege of Messolongi during the Greek war of independence of 1821. Both sieges cost the Ottomans a great deal of men and time and ended in a heroic exodus.
@Cyka Blyat This multi culti Ottoman empire maybe worked on the Balkans, But in hungary, there was not. Irregular ottoman soldiers exterminate almost the entire population, while in the habsburg area, the wallon mercanaries do the same. Finally, just in a decade 3 million killed out of 4 million.
The thing is... Up until the Civil War every engagement fought in North America would have been considered mostly just a minor dust up between European powers. That's why the American Civil War was so impactful both for the American national consciousness and for how the rest of the world view America.
@Min Tin The Ottoman Empire was dismembered by Christian powers - it only survived as long as it did because of Britain protecting it from Russia in the 19thC. Once Britain changed it's mind, it was no more.
@Min Tin Really? What were British and French troops doing in Constantinople in 1918? Russians were meant o be there too, and had there not been the Bolshevik Revolution that city would be in Orthodox hands today.
Another fun fact: The great grandson of Nikola Zrinski (or Zrínyi Miklós in Hungarian), named also Nikola Zrinski, wrote the well-known Hungarian epic poem, The Peril of Sziget (Szigeti veszedelem), roughly 100 years later, as a commemoration of his ancestor's bravery, and to raise the spirit of the Hungarian nation that was by that time all but overwhelmed by the Ottomans.
Awesome defiance in the face of certain death. Seems an even greater feat of courage and grit and stubbornness than the 300 Spartans. 20,000+ wins by a massively outnumbered army. Truly awe-inspiring.
To be fair,what the fuck else can you do when all the diplomatic bridges have been burned? You'll be killed even if you surrender,so you might as well go down fighting like there's no tomorrow (because there literally isn't).
According to some Turkish sources, the target of the campaign was Eger, which was previously besieged but not conquered. However in the meantime, Zrinksi was raiding into Ottoman territory, so they wanted to punish him. Overall historians also often mention that, there was peace with Habsburgs at that time, campaign was already needless and meant to be a respond to popular unrest due to unsuccessful Malta Siege, previous year. Suleiman was already very ill at the beginning of the campaign and prebably knew he won't see Istanbol again. He stilled marched at the head of army at the age of 72, which was very old for that century (still old as well) btw Eastern Hungary (Erdel) was an Ottaman vassal just like Wallachia and Moldovia. The map has a problem there.
The Subic family one of the most influential and powerful aristocrat family from Croatia. Wiith the union of Hungary and Croatia they retained their powerful positions. For example Charles I of Hungary became king thanks to the support Paul I Subic. Later a cadet branch of the family recieved the Castle of Zrin as a fief. So they take the name Zrinski (Hungarian: Zrínyi) meaning "those of Zrin". The Zrinski family was a staunch supporter of the Habsburg family, until theeir fall from grace in the beginning of the 18th century.
They sold us to Arpad....queen Jelena gave the croatian throne to her brother....no matter there was an heir of Trpimirovic dinasty to the throne of Croatia
@Joe Kerr Chapeau! I'm really amazed. Never expected to meet someone here on one of the portals who knows such details about the history of my country. How come a Joe Kerr is interested in something like this? These details are not even known to the mass of Europeans. Chapeau! Ich bin wirklich erstaunt. Hätte nie erwartet, auf einem der Portale hier jemandem zu begegnen, der solche Details über die Geschichte meines Landes kennt. Wie kommt es, dass ein Joe Kerr sich für so etwas interessiert. Diese Details sind nicht einmal der Masse der Europäer bekannt.
@Elite Mangudai Indeed they were. Habsburgs were scum. Just read about the "Frankopan-Zrinski Conspiracy" ("Magnate Conspiracy" in English) and see the treatment of two most noble families of Croatia who gave numerous heroes against Ottomans and how they ended. In fact not many people know this...in 1699 during the "Great Turkish War", Ottomans were on a verge of total collapse...Charles VI forced a truce despite winning because of "his inheritance" i.e. of the upcoming "War of the Spanish Succession". For this reason alone Croatia never recovered their territory in what is now Bosnia-Herzegovina, something they refused to remedy even later. The border of Croatia with Bosnia-Herzegovina is literally more-less the same border established in 1699 by that shameful peace with the Ottomans. Who knows...Balkans would be free already in 18th century and perhaps even recovered Constantinople.
I can’t find the right word to express my fascination over the bravery and the sense of duty of the people who lived back there. Not only I myself, but noone among my numerous friends and acquaintances would be capable of making a voluntary decision to remain in the fort which is doomed to be taken... My mind literally refuses to believe that the power of will displayed by the defenders ever existed in the hearts of mere mortal humans like myself. Thank you very much Kings & Generals.! Your videos are not only very entertaining and informative, there are also truly, truly inspiring!
@Enes Akhan not true. They had many opportunities to flee (lots of historical writtings confirm that /stored in Hungary national museum), but they chose to stay and fight. Zrinski said - it is better to die honorable death than live dishonorable life.
@Great Wolf As German philosophers coined the phrase "Life is not the highest of goods", they took Nikola Subic Zrinjski and his men as examples. Since time immemorial, there have been Croats, women and men in every generation who live and die after it. For us Croats (for the real ones), "being" still counts, not "have"! Als deutsche Philosophen den Satz, das Motto prägten "Das Leben ist das höchste der Güter nicht" nahmenn sie Nikola Subic Zrinjski und seine Männer als Vorbild. Seit Menschengedenken gibt es unter den Kroaten in jeder Generation Frauen und Männer, die danach leben und auch sterben. Für uns Kroaten (für die Echten) zählt immer noch das "Sein", nicht das "Haben"!
@Abo Trump That is not true. Look at what happened in Vukovar. What happened all over Croatia when the Serbs tried to exterminate the Croats in 1991, to destroy Croatia. Das stimmt so nicht. Sehen Sich an, was in Vukovar passiert ist. Was in ganz Kroatien passiert ist, als die Serben 1991 versucht haben, die Kroaten auszurotten, Kroatien zu vernichten.
@Goran Radosevic That´s the point "as we are not English odr French"! We are just "Granicari" Croatian military border guards. "Krene l dusman s bilo koje strane, unuci ce granicu da brane."
@Štěpán Pytlík they were fighting behind the walls .suppose what would happen if austrian army came and fight the ottomans directly on land absolutely you know the results ,the same as mohacs .due to ottoman fear the austrian king did not sent him reinforcment ,it was a long seige the austrian army can reach there easily in 2 weeks but they did not
@Štěpán Pytlík What do I want to get at? On the fact that the Hungarians fought in this (as in many other battles) on the side of the Turks. So what do the Hungarians have in common with the Croats in this battle?
The defenders fought with a Samurai-like dedication. Very impressive. A repeated theme in these battles with the Ottoman Empire seems to be the slaughter of the elite Jannitsar troops used as cannon fodder in the frontlines.
@Thabo Muso I suppose it is true. If it was in the era before the gunpowder than the knights would have the upper hand because of their superior armor, but they didn't adopt to gunpowder usage so they were soon obsolete.
It is strandard strategy to use the best troops to ensure a sucessful assault. For example, during D-Day, the US knew Omaha would be the most fortified beach. Hence, the US Army choose its 2 most veteran divisions to secure Omaha. Then, dropping paratroopers, elite infantrh behind enemy line to distrup enemy forces and to capture key strategic points.
12:38 that's in between epic and hillarious Not even death could prevent a man of rejoicing after such a play. I'll remember Zrinski, and Sziegtvár. Great video guys
You need to do one on Gvozdansko, it was far more gruesome and symbollic of resistance! The defenders literally died on the walls from exposure rather than give up their castle. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Gvozdansko
I'm usually into more ancient or recent history, so I never knew much about the Ottoman invasions beyond a little involving Vlad the Impaler, but this has probably become my favorite series. The epic stories of bravery and sacrifice are incredible and I usually end up watching these with tears in my eyes. Thank you for making these!
if you look at the map of Ottoman conquets in Europe, the part they held for a long time is the most poor and underdeveloped in Europe.We still suffer the consuequences of 500 years of struggle to survive the invasions
After watching video of "Siege of Vienna" couple weeks ago I commented how they constantly avoiding to mention or realis the video of "Battle of Siget" where 4000 Croatian fought against 100,000 Turks and surely there it is, thank you Kings and Generals
We DEFINITELY need more of this in the modern world. Too many people are afraid to "die with their boots on". Detonating the powder magazine after the final charge was nice little F you to the besieging army.
To the best of my of my knowledge, I can assure you that your coverage of the Siege of Siget puts Croatian educational system to shame! Well done KaG! 👋
Such a fascinating page of History....and inspirationnal for us, love the diversity of the Ottoman army, just perfect for our miniatures...Top notch video once again, love the animations and maps!😍😍😍
@Crvenkapica IV. ZNG Then only one question for you: if you were to write poems, would you write them in German? I communicate a lot in English (nearly not as many as my native Hungarian, because I'm still at home, not moved to another country. Mostly for work) but if I were to write poems, I would choose the language that is the closest to my heart, just like anyone else I guess. And I wouldn't think it was too different those times. I understand what you're saying, that using mostly German doesn't make you German, but choosing a language for expressing your feelings about love, patriotism, history and everything else that's inside you is a different matter I think. But I may be wrong of course. And I'm not stupid know that the Zrinjski family is a Croatian family, but in those times being Hungarian or being part of that idea wasn't that simple only defined by blood, and wasn't even an exclusive thing. These people - Croatians, Hungarians and so many others were making these efforts together. The upcoming eras made them forget that unfortunately, but that's for a different argument. Btw I don't speak German, my name may be a little confusing, but as far as my family can relate we are Hungarians, but obviously with German roots somewhere.
Shows you that even a tiny force can take out armies 10x its size by having courageous leadership that never surrenders. They really made the Ottomans bleed for this.
Try more like 50 times its size. There were about 2,500 Croat and Hungarian soldiers against 120,000 strong Ottoman force (numbers range from 100,000 to 180,000 Ottomans)....
That last war part when zwrinsky's Cannons charge over the bridge and zwrinsky himself charge passing through the bridge for the final assault, is something to be made into a movie.
In a period of more than 400 years, no one in my family knew his grandfather. I don't know mine either. For more than 400 years, my ancestors led the lance for the Holy Roman Empire. As the last my great-grandfather in the first WW as Imperial Royal Ulan. Siget is not the only example of Croatian courage, Croatian determination. We have dozens of such examples. Sisak, Sinj to name just two others. We are the wall of Christendom. In einer Periode von mehr als 400 Jahren kannte niemand in meiner Familie seinen Großvater. Auch ich kenne meinen nicht. Mehr als 400 Jahre lang führten meine Vorfahren die Lanze für das Heilige Römische Reich. Als letzter mein Urgroßvater im I. WW als Kaiserlich Königlicher Ulan. Siget ist nicht das einzige Beispiel für kroatischen Mut, kroatische Entschlossenheit. Wir haben Dutzende solcher Beispiele. Sisak, Sin um nur zwei weitere zu nennen. Wir sind der Wall der Christenheit.
@Lile Stojkovic And of course there has to be a serb who calls croats fascists while popular parties in your country have absolutely no problem burning the croatian flag in the middle of the capital city...
As a Turk, I'd like to say that Zrinski is a real hero for Christians. I respect him because he was a brave commander. May both Sultan Suleiman and Zrinski rest in peace. They played their roles in this world and passed away. No need to have more clashes between people. This is history and past is past.
@Quincy Morris Sorry to say this but I think that's a rather rosy way of looking at things. Conflict between groups of people emerge most commonly because of resources they both want access to. That's not the only reason but I'd say probably the most common one. Even if both groups had a non tyranical leadership it still happened if they wanted the same resource. That was most commonly land during historical times. My point is tyranny is not a necessary precondition for atmed conflict. Two or more groups wanting the same resource is.
@Ilyas Taban It's all a matter of perspective. They were Janissaries ... So, soldiers from these parts ... They didn't have children. Zrinski defended his homeland, his family and his way of life. If the Turks had won then, he would not have had a homeland, women would have been raped and children taken into slavery.
Love stories like this. The sheer amount of fuck you Zrinski was packing is awe-inspiring and simultaneously hilarious. I wish more people understood how much fun history can be.
Great video!! And I really hoped you'd talk about the siege of Szigetvar for a long long time. Loved this! BUT... Is this the last we'll see of Suleiman? You guys mentioned making a video about his campaign against the Safavids during your video about the sieges of Eger and Buda. I was wondering you were going to do it like the Mongol Invasion of Vietnam, which you covered after the invasion of Japan where it was already mentioned that Kublai Khan died.
I hope there will be more about the 100year Croatian-Ottoman war or wars against Bulgaria in 9st. or in the newer Croatian history, such as the Croatian War of Independence.
@AFMZ MTE Székes - fehér - vár Székes comes from the "Székhely' meaning Headquarter (it was a main headquarter and coronation site for Hungarian Kings) Fehér - white vár - castle
"When I die, show one of my hand out of the coffin. Let people see that even Sultan Suleiman went away from this world empty-handed" Suleiman the Magnificent
Croatian have big impact on defending Europe from Otomans. Croats fought in many battles. Famous are battle of Siget( this one) Mohacs battle, battle of Sisak and battle of Lepanto first naval battle which christian defeted Otomans. When you look modern Croatian map, border you see that we look like wall to the east. That part border with Bosnia and Serbia. So we call ourself border, wall of christianity
@Kkkkk Nikola was a Croat.[6][7][8] He was born as one of the six children of Nikola III of the Zrinski family from the noble tribe of Šubić, and of Jelena Karlović, sister of future Croatian Ban Ivan Karlović of the Kurjaković family from the noble tribe of Gusić.
Another phenomenal video with amazing production from the narration and research to the epic score that highlights the critical moment of the battle when the end is near. With all the elements coming together the hair stand up on the back of you neck and you live in hope for the miracle or are filled with inspiration at the last stand. Finally I love the sneaky powder keg tactics of the Hapsburg army.
That fortress looked so interesting that I had to look it up, and see what it's like today. Only one of the three sections still stands and the lake has been drained. And now I'm sad. Thanks a lot, Kings and Generals!
Before the charge, Zrinski filled his pockets with coins, when asked why is he doing it, he replied: So that the man robbing my corpse won't be dissapointed.
Named after Zrínyi in Hungary: Zrínyi Defense Military University, thousand of streets around the country, a lot of school, ww2 tank named after him, ww1 hungarian battleship also named after him, but the new hungarian military upgrade project also called "Zrínyi 2020"
@Francek I would love to see Poland, Chech, Slovakia, Hungary and Croatia leaving EU and joining together in a less restrictive economic union. We all are border between east and west, and always getting f***ed up by both sides
@KingsAndGenerals - I'm currently rewatching quite a lot of your documentaries as they appear in my suggested list, and as they're always nice to watch (I've watched the documentary of the siege of Malta like 5 times by now ^^). One tiny detail, though: at 13:40, the Treaty of Adrianople was signed with Maximilian II, not Maximilian I who died almost half a century before these events. :)
We have finally been upgraded from killing the envoys to killing the personal doctors. GREAT SUCCESS!
Oh, and, another video on Monday!
Please go resarch battle of Gvozdansko in Croatian - Turkish wars.
The battle is so brutal that Turkish general admire defenders and give them proper funeral
@Albatros 33 The beys of Kayi Turkoman tribe covered in depth
@Albatros 33 watch Ertrugul and Osman Turkish docudramas with English subtitles it you don't speak Turkish.The 1200s during the founding of the Empire.
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@Abhishek Nanda 9 years old
Respect to the braves of Croatia from Greece.
hahaha thanx! we call him Croatian Leonidas
This is one of those battles you never hear about but should be made into a movie.
Lords of the citadel
@Valentino Jelencic I think that is not according to the legend but that it came later from the song which Zajec implemented in his opera.
Details and quotes about the battle that we know about come mostly from one of the 7 survivors Franjo Crnko who was Zrinskis camerlegno and chronicler abd who wrote the book afterwards
i dont understand what is so special about this siege, suleiman died from old age and ottomans wins the siege
One of the world's first opera is Šubić Zrinski
Acording to legend Zrinski's last word's were : u boj u boj mač i slava braćo(boj is battle with overwlming ods)
Eng : to battle, to battle sword ang glory brother's
And if you have ever seen Croatian nacional football team you can still hear those words shouted by fans
U boj, u boj
In eng :
@Jed wtf😂😂
As a Turk, I admired Zrinski for his superior effort and courage. He bravely defended Zigetvar against the Turkish army much larger than him and died. The life of our Sultan Suleyman was spent on horseback and on expeditions. He died during his last expedition. Undoubtedly, Sultan Suleyman is a magnificent leader and has written his name in gold letters in Turkish and world history. may Zrinski and Sultan Süleyman rest in peace.
They were both great men, valiant and proud to be sure. History is all the richer to study for such figures.
Fun fact There is Croatian football club in Herzegovina name after him and it is most successful club in Bosnia
Zrinjski Mostar I guess ??
Nikola Šubić Zrinski comes from an old Croatian noble family which is one of the Twelve noble tribes of Croatia and a great noble house that constituted Croatian statehood in the Middle Ages. They held the county of Bribir (Varvaria) in inland Dalmatia. From them branched the prominent Zrinski family. Count Nikola IV Zrinski (born 1508) was the Ban of Dalmatia, Slavonia and Croatia, the commander of Szigetvár (from 1561), and the Habsburg commander in western Hungary (from 1563). He is considered the most courageous and prominent member of the Zrinski family, which together with the Frankopans was the most distinguished and famous noble family in Croatian history.
@Mr Bullet Hrvat kao i mnogi prekodrinski pravoslavci, koji su postali Srbi putem SPC-a.
@Mr Bullet Another Serb with their own made up history nobody in world except them knows.
@Mr Bullet 😂😂😂
@Mr Bullet only in parallel servian universe
He was Serbian
This should be made into a movie 100%
Zrinski literally held out long enough to see the Sultan die of old age
😆😆
@alraziosmany Interrupt them in human sacrifice?
@Jax not much of a knight are you
@Hun Guy i was joking, okay?
@Radogost Hopefully that is still allowed to spell the great name of Count Zrinyi in the Hungarian language, but as you can see from the 72 comments above we did have a great debate about this to my great surprise . There seems to be no progress between the Croatian leadership to reconcile their differences with Hungary . The clock is ticking and there is no progress I think it is very unfortunate for both countries. It would be great to see our Brother Nations to join the Visegradi 4 (V4). It seems to me the electors of Croatia might have to shake the tree and demand that progress be made towards closer economic ties, culminating in a form of union as demonstrated within the V4 grouping.
The Kings and Generals Ottoman series is one of the greatest historical docuseries no cap
@Kayser dude i just said, kings & generals is a great source, the video you're sadly commenting on?
@Masaru kun I reading books not watching youtube channels you have no sources but i have
@Kayser are you trying to argue against me or the entire concept of this video series? skanderburg is known for being a resilient and resourceful leader who lasted out far longer than he should against far superior forces. if you didnt know that, i recommend watching kings & generals!
@Masaru kun So what is your answer?What is your source
@Masaru kun And "pushed back"means defeated in siege war 😹
Zrinskis great-grandson, Peter Zrinski, was also a military mastermind, in 1663 he ambushed around 10 000 bosnian/otoman raiders with only around 2500 men, 8000 enemies were killed
@Radogost from after the battle of maritsa river 1371. which servians lost despicably and shamefully to up until the berlin congress in 1878. - all in all 507 years of muslim yoke for you😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can't change history by simply lying...... we know😎
@Fusrod Fos first i have to pay you a tribute for your honesty, indeed it was 354 years, not 500 like croatian fascists want us to believe. Second, yes it is a loss, every single one of your neighbours hates you now, Islam is now considered to be an evil religion, try going anywhere outside of the muslim world and tell me how the people usually react to someone from that culture. I dont think you guys are that bad right now, there are far worse peoples/nations around the world...
@Radogost Şu anda eski imparatorluklar yaşamıyor zaten. Osmanlı Sırbistanı 400 yıldan fazla yönetti. Önemli bir tarih kesitidir
The brother of Peter, named Nikola/Miklós was also a great commander and one of the best authors of the baroque era. He wrote a grand epic about the heroic defense of his great grandfather, published in 1647-48 titled "Szigeti Veszedelem". The epic was translated to croatian by the aforementioned Peter
@Radogost I'm not blaming anyone... The great war, which went on to become a global conflict, was mainly due to Germany. I'm just saying that this was on of the causes of friction between Austria and Serbia, which was used as a pretext in the great war.
Nikola Šubić Zrinski was a Croatian noble in charge of a fortress in Hungary. He had enlarged prepared his garrison for just this; it numbered 2500 troops, about a third of them Hungarian, the rest being Croatian. He has been celebrated since as a hero both by Croatians and Hungarians (they call him Miklos Zrinyi).
In the late 19th century his deeds were made into an opera by Ivan pl. Zajc (a rather good one). By a freak occurrence, the finale of this work was spread to Japan at the end of WW1 by some Austro-Hungarian sailors; the Japanese learned it by heart, but would not learn of its origin for another 60 years after 10 years of research. Today it is the anthem of the prestigious Kwansei Gakuin University in Kobe.
@Ivan The Šubići-Bribirski family originates from Bribir in the Šibenik hinterland. They were the most powerful Croatian noble familyduring the time of Ban Pavle II, who was the only one in history to achieve that his son Mladen II inherited the ban title-Later, they moved their headquarters to Zrin, so they became the Šubići-Zrinski family. Nikola moved his headquarters to Novi Zrin in Međimurje, and one of the points of peace was the demolition of Novi Zrin.
@Kkkkk you should be ashamed for spreading false narrative and polluting the comment space with absolute nonsense.
Magdalena Zrinska born Széchy was the wife of Juraj V Zrinski. She was the mother of Nikola VII. Zrinski.
Nikola VII Zrinski was great grandson of Nikola Šubić Zrinski. Yes, Šubić, the famous croatian/dalmatian noble family.
Fascinating how our "dear" neighbours tend to purposly exclude major facts for only them known reasons.
...what? His mother was Jelena Karlović, a descendant from the old croatian Gusić family. Doesn't sound hungarian.
@Kkkkk Zrinski 100% Croat!!! Mother was Karlović father Šubić. You Hungarians have complex as you didn’t have to fight as you had Croats fighting for you.
@Kkkkk hey liar Zrinski’s mom was Karlović 100% Croat.
As a Turkish i knew we had a victory on zigetvar but never knew how steel balled the defenders were. Huge respects to Zrynski and his soldiers
I am ashamed of Hungarians and Croats of today arguing about a siege in which they cooperated so well together, especially of Hungarians, being myself Hungarian. I think the Treaty of Trianon is the major culprit in making us forget that for 800 years we were friends. Funny we don't have now these arguments with the Turks but between ourselves. A thought also to the great Suleyman, who died there, although he was a ruthless murderer as are all the great conquerors of history...
Turkey is a small nation
@Kkkkk no is not he was 10000 % pure Croat
@Kkkkk no is not you idiot
@Józsi Nagy funny how you guys tend to exclude that he was born from Šubić family, famous croatian/dalmatian noble family.
Also, you mention ironically, "is there a authentic source for this 95%" and then in the same line you pollute the comment space with a complete nonsense how, I quote, "Zriny never called himself Nikola Zrinski, nor did his contemporaries".
Where are your sources?
You can try to falsificate our history (which you've been doing for centuries in Austro-Hungary, but you will never succeed. Most of the Croats are aware of their history, good or bad. Your propaganda won't work. Did not work then and it won't work now.
Kings and Generals thank you from a croat for covering this battle. You have no idea what it means to me, a history fanatic, to see this event about my small but proud country on your channel.
Thank you!
@Rocket league 🤯 poturceni tisina bice ahmici repriza
@Rocket league 🤯 Srbi=Turski balegari i davaoci svojih žena.
@Rocket league 🤯 tipicno tursko balegarsko 💩 iskompleksirano
@Rocket league 🤯 hlup si sinko 😁
@Rocket league 🤯 Letila je I vama po jasenovcu glava ali i više 😂
These types of battles are what I love about history and warfare. Nothing is more badass then being outnumbered and laughing in the face of death, before fighting to the last man. God bless the heroes of Szigetvar.
@Crvenkapica IV. ZNG at the end we got the last laugh we destroyed you and your friends even in battle where we were outnumbered like belgrade battle TURKIYE TURKIYE!
This is what the Croatian military borderr is used to. Hopelessly outnumbered, grinning contemptuously in the face of the enemy and death. That's what my ancestors (all military borderers) did for more than 400 years. Laughed in the face of the Ottoman Empire. I did that myself in 1991/92 against the Serbs.
Das ist es, woran der kroatische Militärgrenzer gewohnt ist. Zahlenmäßig hoffnungslos unterlegen, dem Feind und den Tod verachtend ins Gesicht grinsen. Das haben meine Vorfahren (allesamt Militärgrenzer) mehr als 400 Jahre lang getan. Dem Osmanischen Reich ins Gesicht gelacht. Das habe ich selbst 1991/92 gegenüber den Serben gemacht.
@Tomislav Međeral LoL.
If only you arrived
Most famous Croatian stand off. Glorious Croatian noble Nikola Subic Zrinski. I wish more people learn about this. That final explosion killing few thousands yannisaries was intentional. There was a person inside that lit the fuse leading to massive explosion.
Siege of guns-nikola jurišić
He was half hungarian
If i remember correctly that person was Zrinski's wife.
I live in Croatia, near the place where Zrinski lived. We have a statue of him and celebrate him as one of national heroes
@Eugen Golubic Dođi u Štrigovu na gemišt
@The Senate Čakovec, ali podrijetlo naginje iz donjeg. Tatina strana iz Preloga i okolice.
@Eugen Golubic jesi donje il gornje Medimurje?
@The Senate haha isto
@Eugen Golubic jesam
Brothers forever🇭🇺❤🇭🇷
Zrinski's speech before the final charge:
“Let us go out from this burning place into the open and stand up to our enemies. Who dies, he will be with God. Who dies not, his name will be honored. I will go first, and what I do, you do as well. And God as my witness - I will never leave you, my brothers and knights!”
When his soliders asked are there any reinforcements coming, Zrinjski said: "The king is too far and God is too high (in the sky), we are on our own"
@Jolic Ante Not a priest, 4 nobles and 3 soldiers werent executed among the caotured defenders.
See my previous post 🙂
@Oğuz Kağan Önder Not true, a few dozen of soldiers were captured and only 7 werent executed and were exchanged.
Franjo Crnko, Berto Gereci, Stjepan Orsic, Gaspar Alapic and 3 soldiers.
Franjo Crnko was Zrinskis chronicler and secretary and he wrote a book about the siege later. Most we know today about it we know it from there.
The book is "Podsjedanje i osvajanje Sigeta"
@Oğuz Kağan Önder there was a priest that managed to escape out of the fortress to tell the last days and the ending
@Enes Akhan You die only once. You can runaway or stand and fight. He chose to fight. By doing this he will be remembered for his bravery. This spirit of heroism echoed in Croatia 1991-1995.
@Oğuz Kağan Önder Not exactly. Some of his soldiers are Spies among the Turks. They were listened his speech, and later escaped to report their king.
At the last charge, Zrinski filled his coat with gold coins saying that the man who killed him would not go unrewarded for killing a commander.
A true medieval "Thermopylae". Respect! 🇦🇱🇭🇷
@Ibras Croatia and Albania are natural allies in the illyric peninsula. Respect 🇭🇷🇦🇱💪
All that I can say to Croatian bro's: Thanks to joined and lead the army of Szigetvar (gave us Miklós Zrínyi). What an epic battle was that (20.000 losses for the Ottoman army, unfortunately almost the entire defender army died) . This is one of the reason why I'm really happy that the Hungarian army modernization program called Zrinyi 2026.
@bon giovi I spit on huns of bloody atila
Sandor Kovacs Just don’t forget that Hungary 🇭🇺 is an observer country at Turkic Council (Ural-Altaic Kurultaj) Hopefully Huns of Attila and, Bulgars of Volga 🇧🇬 will be strong again, religions age is over, Hajra Turan!
Finally Croatia in the Kings and Generals! More videos about Croatia please 😊
Chwała Honoru Zrinskiemu!
Respect for Zrinski for his superior effort and courage. Even after they all were killed, they manage to kille 3000 more, that's just insane. It must been rigged or some suicide bomber, that did that. So many interresting stories and people that gave their life that is out their, it should be a Hollywood movie but unfortunely Hollywood only do same movie over and over, is sad.
Nice to see this battle showcased. Nikola Zrinski is indeed a massive historical figure in Croatian textbooks.
Güzel mücadele etmiş ama sonunda öldürülmüş bir kahraman. Bu savaşta zafer pahalı da olsun patron Türklere ait.
Benedek Nagy Croatian soldier with Croatian soldiers 😉
@Don't search Documenting Reality Cristian hero.
Hrvatski heroj
He is in the hungarian textbooks too, along with his great-grand son (also) Nikola Zrinski, who was a famous poet, writer and military commander. The Zrinski family is well liked in Hungary too, as many of them held the title of comes of Zala and Somogy counties in Hungary, captains of hungarian transdanubia, or even the captain of all hungarian forces, like the Nikola mentioned above.
The last charge of Zrinski reminds me of helms deep when aragorn rallies the troops to ride out one more time. Sad that there was no Gandalf to help Zrinski.
@Ustanik bro shut up pls croatian crusaders murdered and raped through the middle east.
@LuftWaffe ME 109bf bruh 😐
Gandalf arrives in the shape of Sobieski, 117 years later. I suspect that's where Toliken got his 'inspiration' from; although he would've more than probably staunchly denied it if queried.
@LuftWaffe ME 109bf saying the Ottomans had the same values as the west is ridiculous pluralistic history. It’s not absurd to say that this battle saved western civilization. Had the Ottomans conquered Europe then it would have been a total change to their values, culture and morals.
If both sides were the same as you claim then they wouldn’t be fighting
@LuftWaffe ME 109bf it’s ok to support a side if you think that side was more in the right. Only support both sides of you think both sides are equally justified.
Nikola Subic Zrinski is one of Croatia‘s greatest national heroes. You can see his monuments even today in Zagreb, Vienna and Budapest
Yeah my ass you can ...all overshadowed by Tudjman and Pavelic
As a Croatian i can say that we all knew and admire Nikola Šubić Zrinski. Honour to the fallen
Fun fact: After this battle Zrinski was compared to Leonidas and this whole battle was compared to the Battle of Thermopylay
Sto ti dode Jure?
It was also what I thought about
Always wondered where the famed toughness of the Croatians came from. That resilience was forged centuries ago.
@Kkkkk" Ego mihi conscius aliter sum, etenim non degenerem me Croatam et quidem Zrinium esse scio " his grandson in a letter to zagreb župan in 1659.
The very same zrinski who wrote first hungarian epic....
You are bore
@Kkkkk male line croatian....
Turks are the tough ones
not slavs they wish though
He was mixed
@Stefan Dusan You're right, I'm sorry. I always have been a sore winner
Btw sretna Oluja!
Mad respect to Croatian hero Zrinski from a Serb!!! 👏👏👏💪💪💪
@Kkkkk whateva
You mean a half croat half croatian
Roses are red
Violets are blue
For a tiny castle
20.000 will do.
@Don't search Documenting Reality
Not to underestimate the bravery of the defenders but it is worth noting that the sources for the Siege of Szigetvár are primarily written by Hungarian and Croatian chroniclers, who may have had a bias in favor of the Croatian defenders and may have been inclined to exaggerate the number of Ottoman casualties. Additionally, the number of casualties may have been inflated due to the confusion and chaos of the battle, making it difficult to accurately count the number of deaths.
@Mai Zen the ottoman also gave heavy casulties to their enemies in mohacs, belgrade,varna ,kosovo,nicopolis,remember when a small ottoman army of 8000 led by mustafa pasha defeated austrian army of 45000 and killing more than 20000 ,remember in 1371, only a thousand turks defeated the serbian massive army of 70000 althrough killing their king in maritsa .and bro ottoman casulties at vasalui were 20,000 at sakender rebellion were 50,000 at malta were 27,000 according to europeans while according to ottomans their casaulties at malta were 10,000
@TheOzgurdavut Man you should see the wars of Hannibal with Rome. Organized levying systems perform miracles.
@Mai Zen Atatürk F.cked Total 500.000 European
Battle of Nicopolis 100.000 Death 🤣
Gallipoli 60.000 Death hahahahahajajahahaaha
@sidjdykak jskdnejdif The janissaries were a professional force.....the rest of the army was not professional. Many were levies. They weren't like the the Prussians who trained every boy how to load and fire in a record time. Or how the English had every boy train to fire a longbow. Or like the Legions of Rome. Most countries didn't have a professional army till the mid 1500's and destruction of feudalism.
Interesting facts about battle of Siget in 1566:
1. In the early stages of the battle Zrinski and his knights would ride out to raid Suleimans army and would come back to the fort with the heads of the Turks they killed tied to their horses.
2. After refusing the offer of surrender Zrinski said to the defenders the reason why he refused the offer of becoming the overlord of whole croatia, he said: "No one will ever point at my children in discontent"
3.Before the last stand and the breach to a heroic death Zrinski embroidered gold coins inside his robes as a reward to the man who kills him.
4. He sentenced to death some of the inhabitants for looting during the fires and chaos of the battle
@The statistician malding turk
@supertotwtact 77 I will tell you only this
we destroyed you even in battles we were outnumbered and that wasnt a siege
sieges are always harder and need way more soldiers than the defenders
in the end you surrendered like the weak slav you are
keep crying
500 years just us against all of you :)
@vitalalive69 facts again
@vitalalive69 facts
@bognar i speak german, i will look for a german version then!
Amazing video, explaining everything very well and detailed.
Long live Croatia and Hungary in brotherhood.
@Ante D dobro nisu bas na milijune malo pretjerujes 😂😂a sto se tice asimilacije asimilirali smo i mi madjare malnar prezime npr a ima ih jos dosta to je sve normalno ako ces o asimilaciji horvata onda moras i sloveniju spomenuti i slovacku a boga mi i cesku a to su sve nase prijateljske zemlje i tako ce ostati zauvijek ne mozemo vrijeme vratiti nikako kao sto ima asimiliranih od navedenih nacija medju hrvatima tako je i obrnuto...sto se tice subica sluzbeno uce u skolama da je bio porijeklom Hrvat, mozda 5 posto madjara tvrdi da je madjar porijeklom, i to valjda oni najzesci nacionalisti..a nije mi samo jasno kako mozes u isto vrijeme volit subica i ne volit madjare kad ih je i sam subic jako volio i smatrao za nas najbratskiji narod?
@Horvatska Banovina Ajmo sad zbog hedervarya mrziti sve madjare i pljunut na suradnju dugu 900 godina. progresivno zar ne?
@GreciAwesomeMan GreciAwesomeMan i jako puno branitelja madjarske nacionaliste je takodje bilo
Mislim, manje-vise dobro se slazemo tu u Baranji i sjevernoj Slavoniji i Osijeku, ali to je samo lokalno prijateljstvo i definitivno se ne odnosi na cijelu Hrvatsku. I činjenica je da su Mađari na crno nama prodavali oruzje za vrijeme embarga na Jugoslaviju 90-ih
@UNS GUS dobar savjet gospon. A po tim evropskim kljigama Madari nama nikad nisu bili prijatelji niti su to danas. Nikad se nisu mogli pomiriti sa cinjenicom, da smo mi Hrvati slobodan, suveren narod. Izgleda, da je to i vama promaklo. Ako su vam Madari najbolji prijatelji izvolite se preseliti u Madarsku.
Zrinjski is still celebrated as the greatest Croatian hero.
@Google Account zna on dobro da je u krivu.
To je sve dio hibridnog ratovanje. Laziranje povijesti. A gdje poceti nego na internetu, gdje raja najvise vremena provodi. Pa nece u knjiznici, ipak je tintu teze obrisati. Onda se jos kakav stranac uhvati za"parangal", pa kud ces ljepse publike za pokusaj ispiranja mozga.
Pa zar nije zanimljivo kako 'vise' po video uratcima koji govore o povijesti susjednih zemalja (Hrvatske, Bosne i Hercigovine, Crne Gore) i pokusavaju pobiti povijesne cinjenice.
Covjek se zapita, cemu takva mrznja ;)
@Safet Sabani zna on Safete dobro da je u krivu.
To je sve dio hibridnog ratovanje. Laziranje povijesti. A gdje poceti nego na internetu, gdje raja najvise vremena provodi. Pa nece u knjiznici, ipak je tintu teze obrisati. Onda se jos kakav stranac uhvati za"parangal", pa kud ces ljepse publike za pokusaj ispiranja mozga.
Pa zar nije zanimljivo kako 'vise' po video uratcima koji govore o povijesti susjednih zemalja (Hrvatske, Bosne i Hercigovine, Crne Gore) i pokusavaju pobiti povijesne cinjenice.
Covjek se zapita, cemu takva mrznja ;)
@PsychoBurner666 I will explain it to you. Very simple, @samo covek is a frustrated Serb. They are spreading false narrative over the internet and media for years. Trying to falsificate the history of neighbourhood countries. Typical "hybrid warfare". Preparation for something major that will happen in a few decades from now.
Let us not be naive, there are numerous number of people that are even getting paid for spreading false narrative on the internet.
@samo covek samo siri propagandu. Kako siješ tako ces i pozeti, vjeruj mi.
He was hungarian. I know that you do not have own history. And you must stole historic heroes from other countries like. But croatia has his own heros.
On one university in Japan, a song U Boj, from Opera Nikola Subic Zrinski is popular and all graduates are singing it.
It is interesting how they learned about the song.. After the I WW, ship from Austrian Navy, was stuck in one coastal city in Japan, needed maintenance & repair, so the sailors stayed there for some time. Most of the sailors were Croats, Checks, Hungarians etc, and since they would sing a song about Zrinski, locals learnt it as well. Just recently, few years ago, the quire from Japanese university visited Croatia and sung the song about Zrinski, that they learnt from sailors after I WW. They performed in national opera house in Zagreb, and their performance was more then stunning.
True. For a long time Japanese didnt know that it is Croatian song. When they found out and what it say, they said that it was deeply emotional for them. And for a reason - main principles of bushido can be applied here, because Zrinski lived by similar principles. He said - it is better to die honorable death than live dishonorable life.
@LECityLECLEC What?
IS THIS ON KZclip :O!?
@Min Tin you probably never heard of Sabaton
Interesting story.
Finally, I thought: "How long till another Ottoman episode?" - this series is AWESOME!!!
Totally agreed! It'd be much harder to follow via reading like 20 books.
Me too 😂
Me too
You and me both buddy.
Im Croatian and honored to see you portray Zrinski correctly!
For those claiming Zrinski to be Hungarian, Nikola IV Šubić Zrinski was 100% Croatian. His father Nikola III Zrinski was a Croat and his mother was Jelena Karlović from the Croat tribe Gusić, parents were Croats, born in Croatia. Šubićs are a old Croat noble family.
His father Nikola III is known for his attendance of the 1527 election in Cetin when Ferdinand I, Archduke of Austria was chosen by the Croatian nobility as the new king of Croatia. Among the seals of six Croatian noblemen on the charter confirming the election, there is also his seal.
@David Szakacs The problem for Croatia starts after ottoman conquest...when habsburg reconquered 90 percent of Hungary and only 20 percent of Croatia(whole bosnia was under ottomans, dalmatia, istra under venice). So Croatians became inferior to Hungarians in numbers, but they were always two crowns Hungarian crown and Croatia et Dalmatia crown.
@David Szakacs it was more complicated then what you say about Croatia belonging to Hungary. Some parts were under Venice some parts were idependente as Bosnian Kingdom...but bro Croatia and Hungary were in personal union. It was more of a merge then takeover. Example of Croatian authonomy is the situation where Croatians pick their own king Ladislaus of Naples amd crown him in Biograd.
@David Szakacs was fighting for habsburgs....if croatia fought on mohacs for hungarian crown( lie...it was personal union) then every battle after mohacs was fought for habsburg crown.
@Enes Akhan habsburg were rulers
Nikola Šubić Zrinski and his men are true heroes of their time. He is immortal and in company with true God now, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit and all the heavenly host. He is an embodiment of true christian, a knight.
Thanks K&G, I was waiting for this for a long time. Greeting from Croatia!
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Ottoman army: ''This will be a short siege.''
Every singel defender of Szigetvar: ''So I took that personaly.''
I don't think they expected to be short as Szigetvar is a though castle composed of 3 different islands. Plus, their enemy knew the territory better than them, they probably expected to have more casualties but maybe not that many. This was Suleiman's last attempt to die as a soldier rather than on his deathbed. But, it made a great history and gave change Hungarians to defend their castle bravely.
A pretty impressive video. The defenders were heroic to the end. My compliments to them.
I can't of course verify that this siege was a direct tactical inspiration, but it is remarkably similar to the siege of Mesologgi during the greek war of independence 250 years later. The defenders even sallied out against the ottoman-egyptian army and a lot of them even made it out. This event is also immortalised in many paintings which also look similar to the picture shown in the video. Man, I hope we get to see that event later on in the series.
Finally! Small Croatia receives some recognition! Thank you!
@ThePtoleme
As a child, I asked an old man (who served in WW I under my great-grandfather), why are we so few? "Whoever remains on the battlefield at 20 or 22 leaves no children, no heirs," he replied. For more than those 400 years mentioned above, no one in my family knew his grandfather. Over time, we became less and less.
Als Kind habe ich einen alten Mann (der im I. WW unter meinem Urgroßvater gedient hat) gefragt, warum sind wir so wenige? "Wer mit 20 oder 22 auf dem Schlachtfeld liegen bleibt, hinterlässt keine Kinder, keine Erben" hat er mir geantwortet. Mehr als diese 400 oben erwähnten Jahre lang, kannte niemand in meiner Familie seinen Großvater. Mit der Zeit wurden wir immer weniger.
@samo covek while serbian people and nobility were vasals and turkish servants, now you choose what was best at that time?
@samo covek pa ima još heroja,Gotovina,Bobetko,Matijaš,Zadro,noviji primjeri
Same thing was federation of yougoslavia (well, not the same - yugoslavia was worse at the end, as we all witnessed)
@samo covek Jebu kompleksi a?
It's fascinating to see so many similarities in the course of events between the siege of Szigetvar and the siege of Messolongi during the Greek war of independence of 1821. Both sieges cost the Ottomans a great deal of men and time and ended in a heroic exodus.
What a great story! Thank you for popularizing such honorable men and their deeds!
Zrinski's head was later returned and buried in the Zrinski family tomb in Cakovec.
the museum there also holds his sabre
@Don't search Documenting Reality so that whole world can understand us.
Zasto pisete na engleskom,kad ste Hrvati
*Between Zadar and Šibenik
I understand less than 80% of what either of you said,
But I feel smarter for have read your comments.
:)
House of Subic to which Zrinski belonged was from Bribir in the background of Zadar in Dalmatia, not from Cakovec. Zrinski was Dalmatian.
Now on to the Siege of Gvozdansko, another epic battle of few against many worthy of a movie spectacle that none knows about.
I am 60 and am sorry to admit that I have never heard of the Siege of Szigetvar - makes the Alamo look like a tea party.
Alamo is PR
@Cyka Blyat This multi culti Ottoman empire maybe worked on the Balkans, But in hungary, there was not. Irregular ottoman soldiers exterminate almost the entire population, while in the habsburg area, the wallon mercanaries do the same. Finally, just in a decade 3 million killed out of 4 million.
The thing is... Up until the Civil War every engagement fought in North America would have been considered mostly just a minor dust up between European powers.
That's why the American Civil War was so impactful both for the American national consciousness and for how the rest of the world view America.
@Min Tin The Ottoman Empire was dismembered by Christian powers - it only survived as long as it did because of Britain protecting it from Russia in the 19thC. Once Britain changed it's mind, it was no more.
@Min Tin Really? What were British and French troops doing in Constantinople in 1918? Russians were meant o be there too, and had there not been the Bolshevik Revolution that city would be in Orthodox hands today.
Another fun fact:
The great grandson of Nikola Zrinski (or Zrínyi Miklós in Hungarian), named also Nikola Zrinski, wrote the well-known Hungarian epic poem, The Peril of Sziget (Szigeti veszedelem), roughly 100 years later, as a commemoration of his ancestor's bravery, and to raise the spirit of the Hungarian nation that was by that time all but overwhelmed by the Ottomans.
Do the siege of Gvozdansko next!!!
Awesome defiance in the face of certain death. Seems an even greater feat of courage and grit and stubbornness than the 300 Spartans. 20,000+ wins by a massively outnumbered army. Truly awe-inspiring.
To be fair,what the fuck else can you do when all the diplomatic bridges have been burned? You'll be killed even if you surrender,so you might as well go down fighting like there's no tomorrow (because there literally isn't).
According to some Turkish sources, the target of the campaign was Eger, which was previously besieged but not conquered. However in the meantime, Zrinksi was raiding into Ottoman territory, so they wanted to punish him.
Overall historians also often mention that, there was peace with Habsburgs at that time, campaign was already needless and meant to be a respond to popular unrest due to unsuccessful Malta Siege, previous year.
Suleiman was already very ill at the beginning of the campaign and prebably knew he won't see Istanbol again. He stilled marched at the head of army at the age of 72, which was very old for that century (still old as well)
btw Eastern Hungary (Erdel) was an Ottaman vassal just like Wallachia and Moldovia. The map has a problem there.
The Subic family one of the most influential and powerful aristocrat family from Croatia. Wiith the union of Hungary and Croatia they retained their powerful positions. For example Charles I of Hungary became king thanks to the support Paul I Subic. Later a cadet branch of the family recieved the Castle of Zrin as a fief. So they take the name Zrinski (Hungarian: Zrínyi) meaning "those of Zrin". The Zrinski family was a staunch supporter of the Habsburg family, until theeir fall from grace in the beginning of the 18th century.
They sold us to Arpad....queen Jelena gave the croatian throne to her brother....no matter there was an heir of Trpimirovic dinasty to the throne of Croatia
@Joe Kerr
Chapeau! I'm really amazed. Never expected to meet someone here on one of the portals who knows such details about the history of my country. How come a Joe Kerr is interested in something like this? These details are not even known to the mass of Europeans.
Chapeau! Ich bin wirklich erstaunt. Hätte nie erwartet, auf einem der Portale hier jemandem zu begegnen, der solche Details über die Geschichte meines Landes kennt. Wie kommt es, dass ein Joe Kerr sich für so etwas interessiert. Diese Details sind nicht einmal der Masse der Europäer bekannt.
@Elite Mangudai Indeed they were. Habsburgs were scum. Just read about the "Frankopan-Zrinski Conspiracy" ("Magnate Conspiracy" in English) and see the treatment of two most noble families of Croatia who gave numerous heroes against Ottomans and how they ended. In fact not many people know this...in 1699 during the "Great Turkish War", Ottomans were on a verge of total collapse...Charles VI forced a truce despite winning because of "his inheritance" i.e. of the upcoming "War of the Spanish Succession". For this reason alone Croatia never recovered their territory in what is now Bosnia-Herzegovina, something they refused to remedy even later. The border of Croatia with Bosnia-Herzegovina is literally more-less the same border established in 1699 by that shameful peace with the Ottomans. Who knows...Balkans would be free already in 18th century and perhaps even recovered Constantinople.
Central Europeans are indeed extremely opportunistic people. Subic family was from Bribir, Dalmatia.
Habsburgs gave the Croats to Italian nobles as pesants.
I can’t find the right word to express my fascination over the bravery and the sense of duty of the people who lived back there. Not only I myself, but noone among my numerous friends and acquaintances would be capable of making a voluntary decision to remain in the fort which is doomed to be taken... My mind literally refuses to believe that the power of will displayed by the defenders ever existed in the hearts of mere mortal humans like myself.
Thank you very much Kings & Generals.! Your videos are not only very entertaining and informative, there are also truly, truly inspiring!
@Enes Akhan not true. They had many opportunities to flee (lots of historical writtings confirm that /stored in Hungary national museum), but they chose to stay and fight. Zrinski said - it is better to die honorable death than live dishonorable life.
@Great Wolf
As German philosophers coined the phrase "Life is not the highest of goods", they took Nikola Subic Zrinjski and his men as examples. Since time immemorial, there have been Croats, women and men in every generation who live and die after it. For us Croats (for the real ones), "being" still counts, not "have"!
Als deutsche Philosophen den Satz, das Motto prägten "Das Leben ist das höchste der Güter nicht" nahmenn sie Nikola Subic Zrinjski und seine Männer als Vorbild. Seit Menschengedenken gibt es unter den Kroaten in jeder Generation Frauen und Männer, die danach leben und auch sterben. Für uns Kroaten (für die Echten) zählt immer noch das "Sein", nicht das "Haben"!
@Abo Trump
That is not true. Look at what happened in Vukovar. What happened all over Croatia when the Serbs tried to exterminate the Croats in 1991, to destroy Croatia.
Das stimmt so nicht. Sehen Sich an, was in Vukovar passiert ist. Was in ganz Kroatien passiert ist, als die Serben 1991 versucht haben, die Kroaten auszurotten, Kroatien zu vernichten.
@Goran Radosevic That´s the point "as we are not English odr French"! We are just "Granicari" Croatian military border guards. "Krene l dusman s bilo koje strane, unuci ce granicu da brane."
@Random Person And once again. You are to stupid to understand.
We owe a lot to Zrinsky. What a hero.
A small victory for a high price. Well done,Croats and Hungarians!
@Štěpán Pytlík they were fighting behind the walls .suppose what would happen if austrian army came and fight the ottomans directly on land absolutely you know the results ,the same as mohacs .due to ottoman fear the austrian king did not sent him reinforcment ,it was a long seige the austrian army can reach there easily in 2 weeks but they did not
@OneBadassCroatian bro the seige was won by the ottomans ypu should thank god if suleiman was alive absolutely he would go for eger and vienna
@Crvenkapica IV. ZNG Hungarians and Croats defended this fortress. You're wrong.
@Štěpán Pytlík What do I want to get at? On the fact that the Hungarians fought in this (as in many other battles) on the side of the Turks. So what do the Hungarians have in common with the Croats in this battle?
@Crvenkapica IV. ZNG And what is your point?
Video length is 14:53, I see what you did there :D
so
Plo Koon no eastern Roman noises
14:54 on my IPad
14:54 here as well.
@Yasin Aydın I think your device is broken.
this entire series has so many crazy siege battles! love it
Kings and Generals thx for this video as a croat i have another video idea its the siege of Sinj(Signo)
Hope you see this
The defenders fought with a Samurai-like dedication. Very impressive.
A repeated theme in these battles with the Ottoman Empire seems to be the slaughter of the elite Jannitsar troops used as cannon fodder in the frontlines.
@gghb_bbb exactly. Although that it should be remembered that the Jannisars were also great soldiers with a high morale.
@Thabo Muso weren't the janassaris converted christian soldiers from the Balkans? It makes sense, why they were used as canon folder
@Normacly And hero of Omaha Norman Cota was Croat like Zrinski. And Stipe Miocic UFC champion.
@Thabo Muso I suppose it is true. If it was in the era before the gunpowder than the knights would have the upper hand because of their superior armor, but they didn't adopt to gunpowder usage so they were soon obsolete.
It is strandard strategy to use the best troops to ensure a sucessful assault.
For example, during D-Day, the US knew Omaha would be the most fortified beach. Hence, the US Army choose its 2 most veteran divisions to secure Omaha.
Then, dropping paratroopers, elite infantrh behind enemy line to distrup enemy forces and to capture key strategic points.
12:38 that's in between epic and hillarious
Not even death could prevent a man of rejoicing after such a play.
I'll remember Zrinski, and Sziegtvár.
Great video guys
You need to do one on Gvozdansko, it was far more gruesome and symbollic of resistance! The defenders literally died on the walls from exposure rather than give up their castle.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Gvozdansko
I'm usually into more ancient or recent history, so I never knew much about the Ottoman invasions beyond a little involving Vlad the Impaler, but this has probably become my favorite series. The epic stories of bravery and sacrifice are incredible and I usually end up watching these with tears in my eyes. Thank you for making these!
if you look at the map of Ottoman conquets in Europe, the part they held for a long time is the most poor and underdeveloped in Europe.We still suffer the consuequences of 500 years of struggle to survive the invasions
After watching video of "Siege of Vienna" couple weeks ago I commented how they constantly avoiding to mention or realis the video of "Battle of Siget" where 4000 Croatian fought against 100,000 Turks and surely there it is, thank you Kings and Generals
What an absolute mad lad. The type of figure the world needs to remember.
Excellent historic analysis and very objective. Nicely done! :)
As soon as I saw the name of the video, I immediately clicked on the video :)
Also please do the battle of Sisak in 1593 :)
Love you guys! ❤❤❤❤
It sue be but still battle of lepanto and battles with persia in 1580s
We DEFINITELY need more of this in the modern world. Too many people are afraid to "die with their boots on".
Detonating the powder magazine after the final charge was nice little F you to the besieging army.
Just came here to say that IM PROUD TO BE CROAT! 🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷
"Suleiman expected it to be a short siege"
Say what you like but this guy did not learn from his mistakes
The moment you mentioned Zrinski I somehow knew he would be a badass, and my god he was.
To the best of my of my knowledge, I can assure you that your coverage of the Siege of Siget puts Croatian educational system to shame! Well done KaG! 👋
Such a fascinating page of History....and inspirationnal for us, love the diversity of the Ottoman army, just perfect for our miniatures...Top notch video once again, love the animations and maps!😍😍😍
Fun fact: the Hungarian Military Academy is to this day named after Zrinski (Zrínyi Miklós -- his Hungarian name).
@INCOherent SYnthesis Kuhen hedervary familiar? How did we backstab you?
@Don't search Documenting Reality his mom from Széchy family would say ltherwise
@Don't search Documenting Reality he was half hungarian
@Crvenkapica IV. ZNG Then only one question for you: if you were to write poems, would you write them in German? I communicate a lot in English (nearly not as many as my native Hungarian, because I'm still at home, not moved to another country. Mostly for work) but if I were to write poems, I would choose the language that is the closest to my heart, just like anyone else I guess. And I wouldn't think it was too different those times. I understand what you're saying, that using mostly German doesn't make you German, but choosing a language for expressing your feelings about love, patriotism, history and everything else that's inside you is a different matter I think. But I may be wrong of course. And I'm not stupid know that the Zrinjski family is a Croatian family, but in those times being Hungarian or being part of that idea wasn't that simple only defined by blood, and wasn't even an exclusive thing. These people - Croatians, Hungarians and so many others were making these efforts together. The upcoming eras made them forget that unfortunately, but that's for a different argument.
Btw I don't speak German, my name may be a little confusing, but as far as my family can relate we are Hungarians, but obviously with German roots somewhere.
@Crvenkapica IV. ZNG We're speaking of 2 different zrnski's. I was talking about Nikola vii not nikola iv. nice post though bro . ZDS
Shows you that even a tiny force can take out armies 10x its size by having courageous leadership that never surrenders. They really made the Ottomans bleed for this.
Try more like 50 times its size. There were about 2,500 Croat and Hungarian soldiers against 120,000 strong Ottoman force (numbers range from 100,000 to 180,000 Ottomans)....
You guys never disappoint. Keep up the great work!
Huge respect for brave Zrinyi and brave people 👏👏
He was brave, He fought till end.
Respect from #India.
Zrinski was a total badass. great video.
That last war part when zwrinsky's Cannons charge over the bridge and zwrinsky himself charge passing through the bridge for the final assault, is something to be made into a movie.
My respect for the great general Zrinski
This is the definition of courage, heroism, and self-sacrifice
In a period of more than 400 years, no one in my family knew his grandfather. I don't know mine either. For more than 400 years, my ancestors led the lance for the Holy Roman Empire. As the last my great-grandfather in the first WW as Imperial Royal Ulan. Siget is not the only example of Croatian courage, Croatian determination. We have dozens of such examples. Sisak, Sinj to name just two others. We are the wall of Christendom.
In einer Periode von mehr als 400 Jahren kannte niemand in meiner Familie seinen Großvater. Auch ich kenne meinen nicht. Mehr als 400 Jahre lang führten meine Vorfahren die Lanze für das Heilige Römische Reich. Als letzter mein Urgroßvater im I. WW als Kaiserlich Königlicher Ulan. Siget ist nicht das einzige Beispiel für kroatischen Mut, kroatische Entschlossenheit. Wir haben Dutzende solcher Beispiele. Sisak, Sin um nur zwei weitere zu nennen. Wir sind der Wall der Christenheit.
@Lile Stojkovic And of course there has to be a serb who calls croats fascists while popular parties in your country have absolutely no problem burning the croatian flag in the middle of the capital city...
@Don't search Documenting Reality Proud to hear that
@Don't search Documenting Reality I saw that in the balkan war! 1991-1995
We Croatians are like that
As a Turk, I'd like to say that Zrinski is a real hero for Christians. I respect him because he was a brave commander. May both Sultan Suleiman and Zrinski rest in peace. They played their roles in this world and passed away. No need to have more clashes between people. This is history and past is past.
@Mario Tudor and suleiman is also one of the national heros of muslim world till today and the mightest monarch of the 16th century
@Arn what europeans did with the world ,seems like you had missed your history classes,mend your own house first
😁
History repeats bro
@Quincy Morris Sorry to say this but I think that's a rather rosy way of looking at things.
Conflict between groups of people emerge most commonly because of resources they both want access to.
That's not the only reason but I'd say probably the most common one. Even if both groups had a non tyranical leadership it still happened if they wanted the same resource.
That was most commonly land during historical times.
My point is tyranny is not a necessary precondition for atmed conflict.
Two or more groups wanting the same resource is.
@Ilyas Taban
It's all a matter of perspective.
They were Janissaries ... So, soldiers from these parts ... They didn't have children.
Zrinski defended his homeland, his family and his way of life.
If the Turks had won then, he would not have had a homeland, women would have been raped and children taken into slavery.
Love stories like this. The sheer amount of fuck you Zrinski was packing is awe-inspiring and simultaneously hilarious. I wish more people understood how much fun history can be.
Great video!! And I really hoped you'd talk about the siege of Szigetvar for a long long time. Loved this!
BUT...
Is this the last we'll see of Suleiman? You guys mentioned making a video about his campaign against the Safavids during your video about the sieges of Eger and Buda. I was wondering you were going to do it like the Mongol Invasion of Vietnam, which you covered after the invasion of Japan where it was already mentioned that Kublai Khan died.
I hope there will be more about the 100year Croatian-Ottoman war or wars against Bulgaria in 9st. or in the newer Croatian history, such as the Croatian War of Independence.
Саша 1 serbian jealous troll , serbians served Ottomans for 600 as their slaves.
@pajser brigada 1 who saved your ass from bulgars Croats of course
@Maci Lol, fuck off. Slavs had great empires in the past.
@Maci if Slavs are so weak then why does V Orban suck up to Putin? protection guarantee?
@Maci that's why the Serbs took Vojvadina from Hungary
Szigetvár means Island Castle (Sziget- Island, Vár-Castle
@AFMZ MTE Székes - fehér - vár
Székes comes from the "Székhely' meaning Headquarter (it was a main headquarter and coronation site for Hungarian Kings)
Fehér - white
vár - castle
@Max Anderson some part of it does, but its no longer surrounded by water
there are lots of cool castles to check out in Hungary btw :)
@Ironication one of the more fun Hungarian place names, like Szombathely "Saturday place", and Kecskemét, "Goat road" (or something similar)
does the fortress still stand, i would love to see it one day.
szőr=hair
szőrös=hairy
szőrös=/= with hair
"When I die, show one of my hand out of the coffin. Let people see that even Sultan Suleiman went away from this world empty-handed"
Suleiman the Magnificent
@St 😂😂😂
@Daily Life of Our Dogs sad. One of the most famous civilization and empires but got dominated by turks for the last 1000 years hahah
@erfan shokri hmm smells like armenian or greek, definitely butthurt :D
It is not important that who say the first YOU IDIOTS! The important point is the meaning and it is related islamic belief..
Ottomand never inherited anyway, instead the paid in advance for a monument in their name, to be built after their death.
Croatian have big impact on defending Europe from Otomans. Croats fought in many battles. Famous are battle of Siget( this one) Mohacs battle, battle of Sisak and battle of Lepanto first naval battle which christian defeted Otomans. When you look modern Croatian map, border you see that we look like wall to the east. That part border with Bosnia and Serbia. So we call ourself border, wall of christianity
@Kkkkk He was good looking and not fat so he was not hungerian 😂
And he was half hungarian
😂😂😂😂 what are you on Mohacs was a lose and it was not even Croatian
Nikola Šubić Zrinski one of the best Croatian generals ... With him Croatia literally became Antemurale Christianitatis..
@Kkkkk Nikola was a Croat.[6][7][8] He was born as one of the six children of Nikola III of the Zrinski family from the noble tribe of Šubić, and of Jelena Karlović, sister of future Croatian Ban Ivan Karlović of the Kurjaković family from the noble tribe of Gusić.
@Kkkkk nope ethnic croatian he just had some castles in hungary born in Zrin CROATIA in croatian noble family
Half hungarian
@Joe Kerr yeah but this solidified it literally
Actually it was referred as such even earlier...with Petar Berislavic, another famous Croatian.
What a legendary defence and battle , may they never be forgotten
this is same as how Croats held on to the last in Vukovar battle in 1991
Another phenomenal video with amazing production from the narration and research to the epic score that highlights the critical moment of the battle when the end is near. With all the elements coming together the hair stand up on the back of you neck and you live in hope for the miracle or are filled with inspiration at the last stand. Finally I love the sneaky powder keg tactics of the Hapsburg army.
That fortress looked so interesting that I had to look it up, and see what it's like today. Only one of the three sections still stands and the lake has been drained. And now I'm sad. Thanks a lot, Kings and Generals!
Before the charge, Zrinski filled his pockets with coins, when asked why is he doing it, he replied: So that the man robbing my corpse won't be dissapointed.
May the Lawgiver rest in peace as his life ended in bitterness. He truly deserved his title of Magnificent
Named after Zrínyi in Hungary: Zrínyi Defense Military University, thousand of streets around the country, a lot of school, ww2 tank named after him, ww1 hungarian battleship also named after him, but the new hungarian military upgrade project also called "Zrínyi 2020"
WOW i would love to see movie about this siege,rescpect from Poland to Hungary and Croatia
🇭🇺🇭🇷🇵🇱⚔️✝️♥️ Film 📽️📽️📽️
@Francek I would love to see Poland, Chech, Slovakia, Hungary and Croatia leaving EU and joining together in a less restrictive economic union. We all are border between east and west, and always getting f***ed up by both sides
3000 Croatians vs 100 000 Ottoman troops. Poland and Croatia Slavic Brothers🇭🇷❤️🇵🇱 to bad that we are not neighbours
There is an opera called Nikola Šubić-Zrinski in Croatian
@Filip Skalic while the Winged Hussars arrived blasting in the background...
Just when you think the guy had nothing left he throws you a giant middle finger and kills 3,000 of your troops
@KingsAndGenerals - I'm currently rewatching quite a lot of your documentaries as they appear in my suggested list, and as they're always nice to watch (I've watched the documentary of the siege of Malta like 5 times by now ^^). One tiny detail, though: at 13:40, the Treaty of Adrianople was signed with Maximilian II, not Maximilian I who died almost half a century before these events. :)