@matt geer Their champions, can't take that from them. But, based on their elite hall of fame talents, each of them under achieved. &, Being "divas", had a lot to do with it. They supposed to be in that rare class of QB's that won multiple titles. They're to egotistical to be the moral leaders of the team. It cost them too.
Jordan Love actually was pretty impressive in that short stint. To just come in cold like that on the road against the team with best record in the NFL and move the ball the way he did was a hugely positive sign going forward.
Nobody really expected him to throw a ball. Teams dont really gameplan for the back-up to play which is why players like Zappe, and white are doing so good on their start out. Now that teams know that Love is starting the rest of the possible season they will plan better.
the amount of football people that ignore the fact that Swiss Cheese couldve come in and looked good when the other team spent 0 minutes last week scouting you is mind boggling
Punctured lung? Was he going for "Bledsoe was rushed to the hospital where it was discovered that Lewis' hit had sheared a blood vessel in his chest, causing a hemothorax that had him bleeding a pint of blood an hour. It was a near-fatal injury and Steinberg revealed the effect such incidents have on agents and people within the player's close circle.
I don't understand why everyone says "oh they can't do it without Davante" they lost a lot. They lost Za'Darius and he actually went to a divisional rival which look really good right now. The way teams have been able to run the ball on them has been far worse than their passing offense has looked without Davante. Apart from the Bucs game, teams have been so efficient by running the ball against them but no one mentions that because Davante is the big name lost in the offseason.
I thought the same thing when gb hired McCarthy from the niners who had the worst offense in the league at the time. Sometimes it works out but this time it hasn’t. We need a change on defense
It's me😎. I said he been there for going on for Years love number one drafted the boys good and when they didn't give number 12 wide receiver they told him you going to do it on your own or it ain't going to get done number 12 on his way out I told you you can't have a quarterback there for 3 years how many quarterbacks to come into the league and been sitting on the bench that's playing now that's obsolete that bad man I wonder Seattle 49 Raiders?😎
I love how when the Packers lose it’s all Rodgers fault but when the Bucs lose Brady had nothing to do with it. Nobody ever accused Undisputed of being unbiased 😅
Tampa Bay had alot of injuries early before the season started. Brady is all messed up with the divorce & losing 650 million dollars in the FTX bitcoin investment scam
@lee simmons 1. Superbowls are a team accolade only possible by having complete teams backed by a solid front office (which Brady has clearly had more of than Rodgers) 2. Brady had Bill Belichek whom is the Best defensive coach and arguably The Best Head Coach ever and Rodgers had McCarthy who is middle of the pack as a head coach. 3. Brady has always had FARRR better defenses who held teams around or under 20 pts. Rodgers has never had that at all. And that’s all without mentioning Tuck Rule, Spygate, or Deflategate. If you gonna try to make an argument then present all the facts.
@lee simmons what does this have to do with wins and losses my guy let's keep it a buck you'll never know who is to blame Brady played under 1 coach for 6 sb rings Rodgers had how many
Can't hurt to have Jordan Love start the rest of the games. I don't see the Packers making the playoffs this year and Aaron looks beaten down. Start Love and see what you got and if he's gonna be the man for you going forward or dive in to the draft for a QB next season. But it seems that Aaron is done.
@Horizon stream 2030maybe it’s all Aaron’s plan to have jordan improve than look good which will push Green Bay to trade him. Yeah a team would have to eat his cap to make the trade worth it BUT if Aaron goes to a good team like the 49ers I believe he’d win the super bowl. If not he’s not going anywhere no one gives up 120+ million dollars lol
I'm a Wisconsin Native and 55 year Packer fan. I said it 2 years before Favre went and I'll say it now. Bid a fond farewell to Rodgers. Enough of his BS. I've never seen a team fall so far so fast. Love looks as good as Rodgers did when he took over for Favre.
They keep saying Aaron kept them hostage. Teams trade people all the time. When they’re ready to move on they cut or trade you. They had those options and after 2 MVP seasons trade value was high for Rodgers. Green Bay had options
But all other teams also have an owner that can make those decisions whereas the Packers have a bunch of suits that just look at profit numbers and see "12" jerseys keep selling.
Not saying this happened but how do they not know you can puncture a lung if ur rib breaks and it stabs ur lung going down it’s not just the hit that would do that 😂
@PrettyBoy23 Fair and reality are not the same thing. The reason why a team has a chance to win is because it has great players. The reason why a team has a chance to lose is because it has bad players. The players that cause you to win aren't normally the players that cause you to lose. That being said, Brady isn't an elite QB this year. He's 45 and no one should expect him to be.
@Marquice Rowan whole essay and nothing of value. Skip is the only one on the show trynna look st it from multiple perspectives. Everytime Shannon talks, it's always in absolutes and I find that disgusting and tyranical. I wouldn't expect a degenerate like you to understand different perspectives. Runs in the family I bet lmfao
Packer fans don’t even deserve Rodgers y’all turn on the man every single game lol if he was smart dude would’ve ran to the 49ers when he had the chance smh
5 of their top 7 cap hits are on the defensive side. Every 1st round pick its always defense. In theory, it makes sense when you have quite possibly the greatest thrower of the football ever. You are granted leeway in terms of drafting offensive but they just cant ever seem to get the defense right for A-rod sadly. The last offensive player selected by GB in the 1st is Jordan Love before that it was 2011 with an offensive tackle.
And WE ALWAYS DRAFT DEFENSE! Infuriating the amount of resources and draft capital that get dedicated to the defense every year only to continually be a bottom feeder. They draft the wrong guys and hire the wrong coaches. Walker was terrible last night and I have no idea what's up with Wyatt....if he's hurt or just sucks that bad...but you'd hope that your first round picks would have some kind of positive impact on the game rather than just being a warm body to take up roster spots.
The fact that some people want to place this loss on Rodgers and not the defense amazes me. This defense can't stop anything, not the pass, not the run, they need to fire Barry and get rid of some of our defensive players.
I didn't see the whole game, but I did see where Rodgers got sacked by like 3 Eagles at once. Unc says it didn't look that painful, but to me it looked like a freaking meat grinder.
Sit Aaron and start jordan, i am a lifelong 61 year old packer fan. I understand Aarons greatness. But there is a heaviness he brongs on the team with his bitching about everyone and never once can i rcall him taking blame, always pointing to teammates. Die Hard packer fan. But Aaron cut off his whole family. A very weird dude and not a guy I would want to lead my team/ Cut bait
Yeah but since them mvps hasn’t done anything. Bruh I’m 26 I’ve seen rodgers whole career. Sure they love him but dude been hurt since week 5 and they are for sure not making the playoffs.
I don’t care what none of y’all say, Jordan Love for first time looked “good” at the end of a football game. That dude still don’t move me so he gone have to really show me his improvement & actually capable of being a franchise qb. In the times we’ve seen him he stunk it up.
I said from game one of this year that Rodgers is done/lost his touch with his game and reality. He has 100% held Green Bay hostage and bullied the organization. Instead of going out on good terms, he's going out in a shameful way. It's hard for me to give him the respect he's earned.
@Mike Tsakarestos What do you expect from someone who starts off with...:"No one ain't perfect". You automatically know that after such an illiterate statement, the rest will reek of nonsense! ;)
We need to remember no one ain't perfect and yes Aaron Rodgers made mistakes but we need to remember he's also one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL history. When people get older there's times where people can't play where they used to play no matter what that sport is. When you remember Aaron Rodgers is a good quarterback and he can't do everything by himself. But also I think they should give Jordan love a chance for the next five games we will see how things go. But next season I don't think Aaron Rodgers is going to come back I think he's going to retire as Green Bay and then after that he might go to a different team. I will be surprised if he does come back next season I'll be happy but at the same time I want Jordan love to play I want him to be the next Brett favre and Aaron Rodgers combined together. And Jordan love has a unique name maybe he might be the next Michael Jordan in the NFL and hopefully he'll have the skills like Tom Brady the running game like Patrick mahomes and like Aaron Rodgers that reads defense. We have to get Jordan love for him to get playing because life goes by so fast. As a packer fan I wanted to see Aaron Rodgers win one more super bowl Green Bay but that's not going to happen. Even though I have the newspapers that I collected in 2010 when the Green Bay Packers won the super bowl with Aaron Rodgers with Aaron Rodgers holding the trophy I have Clay Matthews Donald driver I have great Jennings I have tramon Williams I also have Jordy Nelson and all the players of the Green Bay Packers of 2010. These newspapers look like posters with their position their height their weight their age the college that they went to and experience that they've been playing in the NFL and how long.
I said from game one of this year that Rodgers is done/lost his touch with his game and reality. He has 100% held Green Bay hostage and bullied the organization. Instead of going out on good terms, he's going out in a shameful way. It's hard for me to give him the respect he's earned.
Aaron Rodgers is far from being finished in this organization. Jordan Love is the future of the Packers and he has the best mentor that any young player could hope for in the vast wisdom that Aaron Rodgers has to offer.
The team in general is just a lot worse than the last few years, and Rodgers can't bail them out anymore. You can't let a team run on you for over 350 yards and expect to win.
I would start love to see how he does, if he Plays good, keep him in and let Aaron heal. If he plays bad then put Aaron in and keep us in playoff contention. If they have a chance at the playoffs start Rodgers. If not start love.
If you are one of the young receivers, wouldn't you rather grow with Love and feel like we're in this together? As opposed to a Kwame Brown/Michael Jordan situation where an impatient legend who wants to win is destroying your confidence
If Aaron plays, he continues to build connections with the new WRs. That's the only real reason to keep Aaron playing. Build connections and consistency now while looking forward for next year.
Brett Favre got his starting role in the same way...when Don Majkowski got injured. Love didn't pull out the win last night, but his form looked much better than in previous games. It's clear Love is learning. It's time to give him the reigns. If he plays well the rest of the year, deal Rodgers. If he doesn't play well, let Rodgers stay and keep Love, but bank draft capital to pick up Rodgers' successor in 2024.
My thought, does Rodgers know that type of player that Jordan has become and doesn’t want to a dejavú moment like what happens with Aaron and Brett… except Rodgers is on the short end of the stick?
You gotta make a decision on Love's 5th year option in the off-season. It's probably a no for Love on that 5th year, but either way you should see him play an extended number of games to make an informed decision. Rodgers is hurt. Shut him down, see what you have in Love, and then make a decision on Rodgers and Love's future with the Pack in the off-season
@Hakeem Sd70M it'll cost too much money to keep both QBs. They already signed Rodgers to a fully guaranteed 3yr $150mil deal til after 2026 season. If they trade or cut Rodgers, they'll get hit with a $100mil dead cap. Next season is Love's last year on his rookie deal. No way they will exercise his 5th year option($20mil) or give an unproven QB a long term $20mil+ per year contract. I think Love will get traded next season. Green Bay already invested too much money into Rodgers and is stuck with him for the next 3 years or until he decides to retire.
@Vic Craven I agree.. im not a packer fan by any stretch so I have no dog in this race but it’s time for them to start grooming the future QB of this franchise he’s had his way long enough.. but I truly believe his ego is too big to give the backup QB “His blessing” and for him To give Jordan Love the tools he will need in order to succeed.. Fraudgers comes off as the “If everything doesn’t go my way I’m taking my ball & going home and nobody is playing” type 😂😂
For the first time I agree with Skip on Aaron. I’m watching him and man he’s hurting. He’s leaving it all out there but he’s hurt and it’s hampering his play. He’s extremely competitive so that’s why he wants to be out there but as a packers fan I’ve moved on past this season. Let’s see what we have in Love, let Aaron rest and give it another run next season.
The Packers might not have drafted WRs in the first round when they should've but Aaron has some blame in this also for contemplating rather to stay or go and that's why Davante Adams left.
Even though i know skip's take on Rodgers i still love when he goes off 😂.. 84 always looks at both sides an has great points.. but skiuupp gonna swing for his own fences everytime..
When Love looks like Rodgers, it's a kid paying attention to one of the greats. He's Steve Young to Montana-ish. It's a good look for the young man. He's intelligent and aware and will be just fine in GB. Unleash the beast.
All I have to say is that the "contraversy" was only contraversies to Skip and Shannon. They made it a big deal and everyone else ran with it. If they didn't make a big of it than it wouldn't of been a contraversy and tbh it wasn't the team was still together and focused the only people who had issues was the media.
I actually agree with Skip Bayless for once. Packers need to give Love a good look so they can determine if he's their QB of the future. Packers not going anywhere this season. It's time to see what Jordan Love can do!
It's telling that when Lil Wayne states his opinion, their reaction is "it's because he has inside knowledge and that's what the higher-ups are saying in the org." They don't think he's just stating his opinion. Why not? I would guess because they're not used to candidly sharing their real opinions themselves so assume no one else does, either.
Y’all keep sleeping on my favorite player Arod 12 he gone prove the doubters wrong he gone get that second ring I’m not hopping off the bandwagon of Aaron Rodgers right or wrong 💛💚
That applies if you're younger, not when you're 49 years old man. This isn't recreational flag football here we're talking about. He's looking his age, it's not a bad thing! As a Bears fan he had an infuriatingly amazing run
Well I remember an old struggling Brett favre back in the day and a young unknown Aaron Rodgers from the bench came in replaced him and the rest was history so history repeats itself it's time for old Aaron Rodgers to take a seat for the young guy that's behind him
I’ve had a punctured lung years ago playing goalie in soccer and finished that game and played another the next day before my dad took me to the hospital. It was a bruised sternum but gosh damn did it hurt
You know what's interesting? As you watch 'Undisputed' and 'First Things First' you can almost tell what kind of background these people have based on how they talk on these shows. Like, Shannon is not the most eloquent fellow out there, but he's effective. He speaks loudly with his chest, like he's yelling at a locker room full of beefed-up dudes. Skip speaks in loud, hyperbolic headlines like he's still writing for a newspaper. Brou tries to measure his responses and uses resources like he's still a beat writer. Nick is very verbose like he's still yelling at a boom mic on a broadcast by himself. Wildes is good on TV (you have to pay attention to his poise, facial expressions, and his mannerisms). He's the only one on the set that always knows where his camera is, which is no surprise because his background is with TV.
I’m a lifelong packers fan, I love Aaron BUT J Love is looking good, it’s time. Let him finish the season give Aaron a rest, Aaron had to wait his turn, Jordan has waited his turn, it’s time. Aaron will always be top ten for me but it’s time. Let’s see what he can do, if Aaron stays next year. That’s fine but I think he’s fed up with the organization. But let Jordan finish ‘22.
Its a sad day but I'm ready ....we're just wasting time at this point and with Jordan Love nearing the end of his rookie deal its time to see what he can do full time
I think he's gonna try and head to the 49ers, Green Bay has failed him as an organization for what feels like a decade, rarely big name FA additions, chronic lackluster drafts. Aaron in GB really reminds me of Lebron James during his 1st go around in Cleveland, dude should have more Super Bowl rings than 1.
No he wont. $59 million roster bonus on March 3 After June 1 another $ 50 million salary. Rodgers cap hit is too much for 49ers. I hope he leaves but GuteKunt Loves him.
This is the best chance for the Packers to play Love. Let Rodgers heal up from the thumb and rib injuries. If they don't play Love, they don't know what kind of player they have when it comes to his next contract.
I will not be impressed with Jordan Love until he has started consistently. When Defense's start to watch film on him and he still can overcome. Then I will be impressed.🤔
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@matt geer Their champions, can't take that from them. But, based on their elite hall of fame talents, each of them under achieved. &, Being "divas", had a lot to do with it. They supposed to be in that rare class of QB's that won multiple titles. They're to egotistical to be the moral leaders of the team. It cost them too.
@Black Gator otherwise known as winning 🥇?
Green Bay had 30 consecutive years of diva QB...
Jordan Love actually was pretty impressive in that short stint. To just come in cold like that on the road against the team with best record in the NFL and move the ball the way he did was a hugely positive sign going forward.
Nobody really expected him to throw a ball. Teams dont really gameplan for the back-up to play which is why players like Zappe, and white are doing so good on their start out. Now that teams know that Love is starting the rest of the possible season they will plan better.
It's because they don't know his tendencies, let film on him accumulate and I guarantee you hes going to struggle more than Rodgers.
Eagles are trash
Aaron is proof you only need one Super Bowl title, and good stats. Then everybody starts glorifying you in the media.
He has to be hungry by now. Probably knows playbook pretty well to. Healthy wins for me
Thats what happen when you give most of your salary cap to one player. This situation makes me appreciate brady more for the paycut he took
the amount of football people that ignore the fact that Swiss Cheese couldve come in and looked good when the other team spent 0 minutes last week scouting you is mind boggling
The eagles knew how to stop Rodgers. It was a good decision to bring in a new qb.
L take
Punctured lung? Was he going for "Bledsoe was rushed to the hospital where it was discovered that Lewis' hit had sheared a blood vessel in his chest, causing a hemothorax that had him bleeding a pint of blood an hour. It was a near-fatal injury and Steinberg revealed the effect such incidents have on agents and people within the player's close circle.
Let's face it. Ever since Devante Adams left the team Green Bay hasn't been the same since.
I don't understand why everyone says "oh they can't do it without Davante" they lost a lot. They lost Za'Darius and he actually went to a divisional rival which look really good right now. The way teams have been able to run the ball on them has been far worse than their passing offense has looked without Davante. Apart from the Bucs game, teams have been so efficient by running the ball against them but no one mentions that because Davante is the big name lost in the offseason.
I mean yeah, but it’s only been one season?
Late to the party bro, everyone already "faced it" 8 weeks ago.
2 percent chance from ESPN analytics
Shannon-“ so skim milk chance “ lmfao he always got me busting out laughing
I straight up lost it 😆
Yeah I laughed out loud literally😂
I have no idea why we got rid of Pettine and replaced him with a man who played a role with the 0-16 Lions team.
@Inanna Banana then why are you here? Shouldn't you be watching videos on the war then?
Matt LaFleur hired him. LaFleur loves him(Joe Barry) and his D
@Inanna Banana k
There's real things going on in the world.
Just wanted to let you know.
I thought the same thing when gb hired McCarthy from the niners who had the worst offense in the league at the time. Sometimes it works out but this time it hasn’t. We need a change on defense
It's me😎. I said he been there for going on for Years love number one drafted the boys good and when they didn't give number 12 wide receiver they told him you going to do it on your own or it ain't going to get done number 12 on his way out I told you you can't have a quarterback there for 3 years how many quarterbacks to come into the league and been sitting on the bench that's playing now that's obsolete that bad man I wonder Seattle 49 Raiders?😎
I love how when the Packers lose it’s all Rodgers fault but when the Bucs lose Brady had nothing to do with it. Nobody ever accused Undisputed of being unbiased 😅
Tampa Bay had alot of injuries early before the season started. Brady is all messed up with the divorce & losing 650 million dollars in the FTX bitcoin investment scam
@Vic Craven What has the great Bill Belichick done since Brady left? What was the great Bill Belichick's head coaching record before Brady?
@lee simmons 1. Superbowls are a team accolade only possible by having complete teams backed by a solid front office (which Brady has clearly had more of than Rodgers) 2. Brady had Bill Belichek whom is the Best defensive coach and arguably The Best Head Coach ever and Rodgers had McCarthy who is middle of the pack as a head coach. 3. Brady has always had FARRR better defenses who held teams around or under 20 pts. Rodgers has never had that at all. And that’s all without mentioning Tuck Rule, Spygate, or Deflategate. If you gonna try to make an argument then present all the facts.
@lee simmons what does this have to do with wins and losses my guy let's keep it a buck you'll never know who is to blame Brady played under 1 coach for 6 sb rings Rodgers had how many
Brady 7 SB, age 45...3 MVP...5 SB MVP.... Rogers 1 SB , age 38...4MVP...1 SB MVP
Can't hurt to have Jordan Love start the rest of the games. I don't see the Packers making the playoffs this year and Aaron looks beaten down. Start Love and see what you got and if he's gonna be the man for you going forward or dive in to the draft for a QB next season. But it seems that Aaron is done.
@glquam07 true and even tho they beat my Cowboys, Cowboys are 8-3 and Packers are 4-8.
Most of the GB fanbase still thinks the team is going to the playoffs.
@Horizon stream 2030 bro if you don’t know anything just say that😭
@Horizon stream 2030 youre an i word that means stupid. Yes hes been training beside and learning from aaron...
@Horizon stream 2030maybe it’s all Aaron’s plan to have jordan improve than look good which will push Green Bay to trade him. Yeah a team would have to eat his cap to make the trade worth it BUT if Aaron goes to a good team like the 49ers I believe he’d win the super bowl. If not he’s not going anywhere no one gives up 120+ million dollars lol
I'm a Wisconsin Native and 55 year Packer fan. I said it 2 years before Favre went and I'll say it now. Bid a fond farewell to Rodgers. Enough of his BS. I've never seen a team fall so far so fast. Love looks as good as Rodgers did when he took over for Favre.
I feel like sayin that you can't get a lung punctured by a NFL player is understating their strength
They keep saying Aaron kept them hostage. Teams trade people all the time. When they’re ready to move on they cut or trade you. They had those options and after 2 MVP seasons trade value was high for Rodgers. Green Bay had options
All they do is push Skip’s narratives
But all other teams also have an owner that can make those decisions whereas the Packers have a bunch of suits that just look at profit numbers and see "12" jerseys keep selling.
@Silly Goose 🙏😌
@Le kebbles
Hahahaha you funny man!!!
@david kuhlman adams left so he could get top money the retire in 2 years
Not saying this happened but how do they not know you can puncture a lung if ur rib breaks and it stabs ur lung going down it’s not just the hit that would do that 😂
the Packers should shut Aaron Rodgers down for the rest of the season
We’re going to the playoffs
That why he beat the bears
@Ayejay Alvarez your mother
Dumb.
No, I just think he should be a 50 million dollar back up for the rest of the season.
Im ready to hear what skip got to say about the bucs losing to the browns and how it’s gone be everybody but Brady fault
@Nathan Newman and reality is they shouldn’t be allowed in the playoffs
@PrettyBoy23 Fair and reality are not the same thing. The reason why a team has a chance to win is because it has great players. The reason why a team has a chance to lose is because it has bad players. The players that cause you to win aren't normally the players that cause you to lose.
That being said, Brady isn't an elite QB this year. He's 45 and no one should expect him to be.
@The Best Of The Best it’s never Brady’s fault when they lose but always Brady’s credit when they win🙄
@Onestonedbake 👍
@Marquice Rowan whole essay and nothing of value. Skip is the only one on the show trynna look st it from multiple perspectives. Everytime Shannon talks, it's always in absolutes and I find that disgusting and tyranical. I wouldn't expect a degenerate like you to understand different perspectives. Runs in the family I bet lmfao
As a Packers fan I want Rodgers to retire a Packers, but Jordan Love looked real good
Packer fans don’t even deserve Rodgers y’all turn on the man every single game lol if he was smart dude would’ve ran to the 49ers when he had the chance smh
He makes a good point, if you apply pressure to a QB thats when you see if they can make the right reads or not.
@Penguin Mon my name is Jeffrey Lori 🤣🤣
@Crown Seven dam "your" team? That's awesome that you own a football team
@Thomas Erickson I'll never forgive that bum for wasting away AP's prime.
How about the Packers defense take away the QB from running all over the field????
👏 thank u … bench Tom Brady next … they’re both trash now … nobody cares what they was in the past we’re in the present
Exactly, everything is always Rodgers fault in Greenbay even when it’s not lol it’s been like this his whole career
The defensive ends were taking terrible angles also. Either out too wide or crashing too far in.
@adrian man listen..if I had known Hurts was gonna do what he did in the 1st damn quarter I would've put down way more money smh damn it
It doesn't matter when the QB is spot light! They blame him for anything it's a shame
It’s amazing to me that our run defense has been bad since Aaron’s been in the league and we still haven’t drafted anything to help that
And they cannot tackle!!
5 of their top 7 cap hits are on the defensive side. Every 1st round pick its always defense. In theory, it makes sense when you have quite possibly the greatest thrower of the football ever. You are granted leeway in terms of drafting offensive but they just cant ever seem to get the defense right for A-rod sadly. The last offensive player selected by GB in the 1st is Jordan Love before that it was 2011 with an offensive tackle.
And WE ALWAYS DRAFT DEFENSE! Infuriating the amount of resources and draft capital that get dedicated to the defense every year only to continually be a bottom feeder. They draft the wrong guys and hire the wrong coaches. Walker was terrible last night and I have no idea what's up with Wyatt....if he's hurt or just sucks that bad...but you'd hope that your first round picks would have some kind of positive impact on the game rather than just being a warm body to take up roster spots.
Put love in and trade rogers for first round picks. Rogers doesn't want to be on a rebuild team..
I think we can all agree this guy never disappoints us with his content
The fact that some people want to place this loss on Rodgers and not the defense amazes me. This defense can't stop anything, not the pass, not the run, they need to fire Barry and get rid of some of our defensive players.
@david kuhlman Facts
defense is the worst in the league. Worst Def. Coach and Worst GM too.
@Juan Guerrero you're right but losing a top 5 pass rusher is tough to overcome. Where has devonte Wyatt been?
@Geoff Wilson it does but the rest of the defense needs to step up.
Not having Gary and Stokes hurts big time
I didn't see the whole game, but I did see where Rodgers got sacked by like 3 Eagles at once. Unc says it didn't look that painful, but to me it looked like a freaking meat grinder.
@Patrick Zamier of course u not mad at him lmao it’s your team. and nah im not a packers fan before u assume
Yeah one of our defenders went right for his hand 🤷🏾♂️ I’m not mad at him, expose the weakness
"He's got a skim milk chance." Man that's good.
Hands down best sports show and hosts ever, nobody can touch Undisputed!
“They got skim milk chance “😂😂😂
You really are free now techno. You made us all smile and laugh even in such a short time, rest easy knowing all the lives you touched.
I don’t think he’s done he’s just hurt
@jah feezy how many “playoff wins”? 🤔
@CorePathway
He's overrated i agree
He'll play one more season and retire at 40
@CorePathway has a lot of playoff wins just no Super Bowl to show for it
What has he won in the past 10 seasons? How many playoff wins?
Sit Aaron and start jordan, i am a lifelong 61 year old packer fan. I understand Aarons greatness. But there is a heaviness he brongs on the team with his bitching about everyone and never once can i rcall him taking blame, always pointing to teammates. Die Hard packer fan. But Aaron cut off his whole family. A very weird dude and not a guy I would want to lead my team/ Cut bait
As a Bears fan I'm shocked to hear Shannon say move on from a man that won back to back MVPs!! Unbelievable
Cuz lil wayne tweeted to also yo this show is a joke man
Yeah but since them mvps hasn’t done anything. Bruh I’m 26 I’ve seen rodgers whole career. Sure they love him but dude been hurt since week 5 and they are for sure not making the playoffs.
They’re in for a rude awakening if they think Packers got their 3rd HOF
It would have been a no-brainer 20 years ago, but more QBs are playing well into their late 30s at a high level, so it makes moving on more difficult.
just start Love. at least try and win a few more games?
I don’t care what none of y’all say, Jordan Love for first time looked “good” at the end of a football game. That dude still don’t move me so he gone have to really show me his improvement & actually capable of being a franchise qb. In the times we’ve seen him he stunk it up.
Great game by both teams😀✨
I said from game one of this year that Rodgers is done/lost his touch with his game and reality. He has 100% held Green Bay hostage and bullied the organization. Instead of going out on good terms, he's going out in a shameful way. It's hard for me to give him the respect he's earned.
He played with a broken thumb on his throwing hand he's not done
Ironically, Kinda Reminds me of Favre's drama when he left.
@Mike Tsakarestos What do you expect from someone who starts off with...:"No one ain't perfect". You automatically know that after such an illiterate statement, the rest will reek of nonsense! ;)
@Nicholas Otis Damn bruh. That was a mouthful for a whole lotta nonsense.
We need to remember no one ain't perfect and yes Aaron Rodgers made mistakes but we need to remember he's also one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL history. When people get older there's times where people can't play where they used to play no matter what that sport is. When you remember Aaron Rodgers is a good quarterback and he can't do everything by himself. But also I think they should give Jordan love a chance for the next five games we will see how things go. But next season I don't think Aaron Rodgers is going to come back I think he's going to retire as Green Bay and then after that he might go to a different team. I will be surprised if he does come back next season I'll be happy but at the same time I want Jordan love to play I want him to be the next Brett favre and Aaron Rodgers combined together. And Jordan love has a unique name maybe he might be the next Michael Jordan in the NFL and hopefully he'll have the skills like Tom Brady the running game like Patrick mahomes and like Aaron Rodgers that reads defense. We have to get Jordan love for him to get playing because life goes by so fast. As a packer fan I wanted to see Aaron Rodgers win one more super bowl Green Bay but that's not going to happen. Even though I have the newspapers that I collected in 2010 when the Green Bay Packers won the super bowl with Aaron Rodgers with Aaron Rodgers holding the trophy I have Clay Matthews Donald driver I have great Jennings I have tramon Williams I also have Jordy Nelson and all the players of the Green Bay Packers of 2010. These newspapers look like posters with their position their height their weight their age the college that they went to and experience that they've been playing in the NFL and how long.
I said from game one of this year that Rodgers is done/lost his touch with his game and reality. He has 100% held Green Bay hostage and bullied the organization. Instead of going out on good terms, he's going out in a shameful way. It's hard for me to give him the respect he's earned.
Hard to imagine Wayne out in Lambeau field snow and all watching his team play.
Aaron Rodgers is far from being finished in this organization. Jordan Love is the future of the Packers and he has the best mentor that any young player could hope for in the vast wisdom that Aaron Rodgers has to offer.
For once I agree with skip. It’s time for Love.
Its time for Jordan Love to take over, the season is over for the Packers and the team needs to see who Love really is.
The team in general is just a lot worse than the last few years, and Rodgers can't bail them out anymore. You can't let a team run on you for over 350 yards and expect to win.
I would start love to see how he does, if he Plays good, keep him in and let Aaron heal. If he plays bad then put Aaron in and keep us in playoff contention. If they have a chance at the playoffs start Rodgers. If not start love.
I want to see more of Watson and I think with Love in there after that great game ending performance let's go!
If you are one of the young receivers, wouldn't you rather grow with Love and feel like we're in this together? As opposed to a Kwame Brown/Michael Jordan situation where an impatient legend who wants to win is destroying your confidence
If Aaron plays, he continues to build connections with the new WRs. That's the only real reason to keep Aaron playing. Build connections and consistency now while looking forward for next year.
Brett Favre got his starting role in the same way...when Don Majkowski got injured. Love didn't pull out the win last night, but his form looked much better than in previous games. It's clear Love is learning. It's time to give him the reigns. If he plays well the rest of the year, deal Rodgers. If he doesn't play well, let Rodgers stay and keep Love, but bank draft capital to pick up Rodgers' successor in 2024.
I thought Watson was looking like a Bust ! Now with him & Dobbs the Freaking future looks bright
My thought, does Rodgers know that type of player that Jordan has become and doesn’t want to a dejavú moment like what happens with Aaron and Brett… except Rodgers is on the short end of the stick?
Oh, please.... No way Love could replace Rodgers with a couple good throws. Rodgers is better at 39-42 years old then 90% of any NFL QB
It’s time to move on. Packers need to trade AR and get everything you can for him.
You gotta make a decision on Love's 5th year option in the off-season. It's probably a no for Love on that 5th year, but either way you should see him play an extended number of games to make an informed decision. Rodgers is hurt. Shut him down, see what you have in Love, and then make a decision on Rodgers and Love's future with the Pack in the off-season
Love's 5th year option is $20 million!
I didn't know Rodgers played defense?
He's a half way decent CB imo......hip movement could improve but what do ya expect from AR12
@Hakeem Sd70M it'll cost too much money to keep both QBs. They already signed Rodgers to a fully guaranteed 3yr $150mil deal til after 2026 season. If they trade or cut Rodgers, they'll get hit with a $100mil dead cap. Next season is Love's last year on his rookie deal. No way they will exercise his 5th year option($20mil) or give an unproven QB a long term $20mil+ per year contract. I think Love will get traded next season. Green Bay already invested too much money into Rodgers and is stuck with him for the next 3 years or until he decides to retire.
@Vic Craven I agree.. im not a packer fan by any stretch so I have no dog in this race but it’s time for them to start grooming the future QB of this franchise he’s had his way long enough.. but I truly believe his ego is too big to give the backup QB “His blessing” and for him
To give Jordan Love the tools he will need in order to succeed.. Fraudgers comes off as the “If everything doesn’t go my way I’m taking my ball & going home and nobody is playing” type 😂😂
@Yoogi 8400 they shol aint help by giving up 300+ rushing yards and 40 points
Idk the packers defense threw 2 picks😂😂
Our season is basically over so let Love play!!!! Just saying
For the first time I agree with Skip on Aaron. I’m watching him and man he’s hurting. He’s leaving it all out there but he’s hurt and it’s hampering his play. He’s extremely competitive so that’s why he wants to be out there but as a packers fan I’ve moved on past this season. Let’s see what we have in Love, let Aaron rest and give it another run next season.
I've had a torn muscle attached to my ribs, it is really painful. I would only feel it if I turned like Shannon is describing here. I had it x-rayed
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The Packers might not have drafted WRs in the first round when they should've but Aaron has some blame in this also for contemplating rather to stay or go and that's why Davante Adams left.
Even though i know skip's take on Rodgers i still love when he goes off 😂.. 84 always looks at both sides an has great points.. but skiuupp gonna swing for his own fences everytime..
“Skim milk chance” 😂😂love my Packers, but he is right! Lol “skim milk chance”
Skip never stops talking abt Wayne I swear 😂
Fr who cares what he said. He also took it back and said he was crazy for doubting 12. “I hark back blah blah”
Old mush mouth needs to keep his grill away from magnets, let alone away from talking about success in football
That's his inside source ..
Right if I was one of Wayne’s best friends I’d never shut up about it lol
@Wayne Alan they've been friends longer than you've been born
As soon as Davante Adams left. It was over in Green Bay.
@Emmanuel Nava not his fault. Carr isn’t a good quarterback and Adams can’t do it alone
Ah yes because Adams got the Raiders as the number one seed in the AFC West with a winning record
When Love looks like Rodgers, it's a kid paying attention to one of the greats. He's Steve Young to Montana-ish. It's a good look for the young man. He's intelligent and aware and will be just fine in GB. Unleash the beast.
M straight facts!
All I have to say is that the "contraversy" was only contraversies to Skip and Shannon. They made it a big deal and everyone else ran with it. If they didn't make a big of it than it wouldn't of been a contraversy and tbh it wasn't the team was still together and focused the only people who had issues was the media.
I say let Love play. Nothing to lose at this point
I actually agree with Skip Bayless for once. Packers need to give Love a good look so they can determine if he's their QB of the future. Packers not going anywhere this season. It's time to see what Jordan Love can do!
Whats crazy is that every team in the nfc east might go to the playoffs
NFC East is gaining momentum..
Well.. when you draft in the top 10 each year your bound to eventually get better.. that's what makes the NFL great
It's telling that when Lil Wayne states his opinion, their reaction is "it's because he has inside knowledge and that's what the higher-ups are saying in the org." They don't think he's just stating his opinion. Why not? I would guess because they're not used to candidly sharing their real opinions themselves so assume no one else does, either.
When Mark Murphy is frustrated, he calls Lil Wayne. Sound ridiculous?
Damn!
The Packers have to know if Love can play. Right now is the perfect opportunity for them to learn that.
Sit Rogers and let him heal.
I’d love for packers to trade A Rodgers to see how he could be on another team like LA Rams or the Raiders!
Alright we know what's next. Aaron needs to follow Brett Favre's career to the Jets then retire with the Vikings. 😉
Y’all keep sleeping on my favorite player Arod 12 he gone prove the doubters wrong he gone get that second ring I’m not hopping off the bandwagon of Aaron Rodgers right or wrong 💛💚
Aaron should heal up for next season wherever that will be and see what Jordan Love can do.
If Rodgers didn’t throw those picks the game is much closer and they prob win. Defense let this one get away
Romo played through a punctured lung before and came back to beat the 49ers but of course Skip doesn’t know that…
It's a wrap. Rogers knows the season is done, so call it quits and come back next season for the money.
A bad season doesn’t determine a career! Media always too quick to judge smh
@Tyler Brubaker let him be the QB for the LV Raiders and I bet you they would make a deep playoff run with that offense
ONE SUPERBOWL, a dozen years ago. ONE. All those league MVPs…but he is a post-season disaster. Buh-bye, A-Aron.
No one says it defines his whole career but he’s clearly not the same QB and he has sucked all season long
That applies if you're younger, not when you're 49 years old man. This isn't recreational flag football here we're talking about. He's looking his age, it's not a bad thing! As a Bears fan he had an infuriatingly amazing run
Love looked good last night. Let him play!
Bill Belichick said he’d rather get rid of a quarterback a year early than a year late. Damn this is why.
The bar is so low with Love that if he can throw a pass in the general area of his target he is doing great.
@Leonardo Moore Not at all. I just am telling it like I see it. Love was so horrible up until now that him playing like a real QB is a huge upgrade.
Frank V u sound like a rodgers groupie trying to protect rodgers at all costs by shading love.
As a bears fan knowing we will lose either way this weekend, I do think the packers should start Jordan Love if you want to put us away.
Yeah , but next year we will have so much cap space and picks. We will be solid for 4 years for sure
Well I remember an old struggling Brett favre back in the day and a young unknown Aaron Rodgers from the bench came in replaced him and the rest was history so history repeats itself it's time for old Aaron Rodgers to take a seat for the young guy that's behind him
Another Aaron Rodgers vs Green Bay Packers hostage situation coming right up.
Aaron Rodgers is finding himself on the other end of the QB replacement deal now Lol how ironic after all the shyt he gave Brett Favre.
It’s Jordan Love time!!!
That was the best game of the night My opinion Jesus had me up an down on my feet lol
I am with Shannon on this start Jordan love and see where he takes the packers . Rodgers’s is getting old 39-40 time to start looking to the future
I’ve had a punctured lung years ago playing goalie in soccer and finished that game and played another the next day before my dad took me to the hospital. It was a bruised sternum but gosh damn did it hurt
@ALSILVERU2 thanks bruh, needed that
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You know what's interesting? As you watch 'Undisputed' and 'First Things First' you can almost tell what kind of background these people have based on how they talk on these shows.
Like, Shannon is not the most eloquent fellow out there, but he's effective. He speaks loudly with his chest, like he's yelling at a locker room full of beefed-up dudes.
Skip speaks in loud, hyperbolic headlines like he's still writing for a newspaper.
Brou tries to measure his responses and uses resources like he's still a beat writer.
Nick is very verbose like he's still yelling at a boom mic on a broadcast by himself.
Wildes is good on TV (you have to pay attention to his poise, facial expressions, and his mannerisms). He's the only one on the set that always knows where his camera is, which is no surprise because his background is with TV.
Facts but I think Shannon is pretty eloquent. Don’t sell him short! Lol
That's a pretty good assessment 👍🏽👍🏽😂😀🤣
I think Shannon is witty, likable, and more than eloquent but that’s just me.
@RichValley EP he’s not as ballsy as Skip
Facts and Wildes got what it take to be as big as Skip
Let's talk about how the Packers drafted with a first round pick. Someone remind me, wasn't Justin Jefferson available?
How’d they recruit that defense though? 😂 that’s what I want to know.
Love brought energy to the game...
Rodgers is a zombie no emotions & low energy bad attitude
I’m a lifelong packers fan, I love Aaron BUT J Love is looking good, it’s time. Let him finish the season give Aaron a rest, Aaron had to wait his turn, Jordan has waited his turn, it’s time. Aaron will always be top ten for me but it’s time. Let’s see what he can do, if Aaron stays next year. That’s fine but I think he’s fed up with the organization. But let Jordan finish ‘22.
Its a sad day but I'm ready ....we're just wasting time at this point and with Jordan Love nearing the end of his rookie deal its time to see what he can do full time
too quick to judge my guy
Well Favre and Rodgers got the Packers one SB ring each, sure no pressure Mr Love 😐
I think he's gonna try and head to the 49ers, Green Bay has failed him as an organization for what feels like a decade, rarely big name FA additions, chronic lackluster drafts. Aaron in GB really reminds me of Lebron James during his 1st go around in Cleveland, dude should have more Super Bowl rings than 1.
No he wont. $59 million roster bonus on March 3 After June 1 another $ 50 million salary. Rodgers cap hit is too much for 49ers. I hope he leaves but GuteKunt Loves him.
This is the best chance for the Packers to play Love. Let Rodgers heal up from the thumb and rib injuries. If they don't play Love, they don't know what kind of player they have when it comes to his next contract.
Love needs to start the rest of the year.
I will not be impressed with Jordan Love until he has started consistently. When Defense's start to watch film on him and he still can overcome. Then I will be impressed.🤔
First round draft picks will eventually play at some point. It's just a matter of time.
Jordan looks mighty calm and good to be a young QB
Too many missed tackles, jalen hurt ran all over us but I'm not moving on from AR12
As a Packers fan I want Rodgers to retire a Packers, but Jordan Love looked good