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Early South Slavic History

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  • Stefan Milo
    Stefan Milo 4 жыл бұрын +29

    Great video man. Really thorough! Your effort really shows.

  • Siapanpeteellis
    Siapanpeteellis  Жыл бұрын +115

    This was the best explanation of how the Balkans became Slavic that I have encountered. Much better than the many books I have read on the subject and superman myths. Awesome.

  • Cardan011
    Cardan011  Жыл бұрын +159

    Sheit history of Balkans is like 1000 seasons of game of thrones

    • Dimitar Slavchev
      Dimitar Slavchev 2 ай бұрын

      *of Europe

    • George Gkoumas
      George Gkoumas 3 ай бұрын +7

      Keep in mind that this is just early south Slav history, this doesn't mention anything about ancient Greece, the Ottoman empire and ofc the Balkan wars. Also the Byzantine empire is briefly mentioned ofc because the point of this video is the Slavs not the Greeks.

    • OUTBREAK GAMING
      OUTBREAK GAMING  Жыл бұрын +11

      bruh, you have no idea :D

  • tricker
    tricker  Жыл бұрын +109

    Wow, never heard that Bulgarian people lived originally in other side of the sea which is called "Great Bulgaria".
    Really interesting video!

    • WindWaker1985
      WindWaker1985 15 күн бұрын

      @Aleksandar be together not the same mongolian ? did you buy ur history class in the chinese market ? trolls everywhere

    • Aleksandar be together not the same
      Aleksandar be together not the same 18 күн бұрын

      @WindWaker1985 bulgarian are asparux mongolian

    • Nedyalko Todorov
      Nedyalko Todorov 25 күн бұрын

      wait untin you found out for Volga Bulgaria there were 2 country with "Bulgaria " name 1 at danube and 1 at volga

    • Assen Jivkov
      Assen Jivkov 2 ай бұрын +3

      Why you don't tell anything about bulgarian-franks war, and that in 10th century Bulgarians conquer Serbs for about 150 years?

    • Assen Jivkov
      Assen Jivkov 2 ай бұрын

      Your maps are not exact

  • Fairex
    Fairex 3 жыл бұрын +32

    Actually, the origins of the Bulgars are largely unknown. There are sources from Armenian writers telling us Old Bulgarians inhabited the Caucasuses for a period of time and that they had great stoneworking abilities and built stone houses when they migrated to the area. Because of all the evidence there is a newer theory regarding the origins of the Proto-Bulgarians, that states they are from Iranian descent and the Turkic elements we see in their culture were picked up later on, as many Turkic tribes migrated from Asia into the lands inhabited by the Old Bulgarians and vise versa.

    • UNS GUS
      UNS GUS 8 ай бұрын

      from river volga i think

    • Fairex
      Fairex 3 жыл бұрын +10

      @M. Laser History That's the case with all theories about Proto-Bulgarian history of origin, sadly. We just don't have the evidence to make some kind of a solid conclusion.

    • M. Laser History
      M. Laser History  3 жыл бұрын +11

      Could be, but I think more research has to be done in to that as the current facts do present a valid argument but not necessarily a closed case.

  • zZap
    zZap  Жыл бұрын +168

    Holy crap. Never even knew the story of the Bulgars and Bulgaria was so interesting. Amazing video. Regards from Lithuania!

    • Julian Petkov
      Julian Petkov 18 күн бұрын

      @Aleksandar be together not the same Къде отиде буквата "Ъ, ъ", смешнико?
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      Защо в кирилицата има буква "Ъ, ъ", а в "македонската" кирилица няма?
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • Julian Petkov
      Julian Petkov 18 күн бұрын

      @Aleksandar be together not the same "Makedonian History"? 😂😂😂 I am from Plovdiv. You are nowhere near where the Macedonia of Philip was. 😃 Get a map! Also "Macedonia" wasn't a country, it was Philip's corporation. He was recruiting Thracian for his mercenary army. No such thing as "Macedonians" in Plovdiv, he recruited Tracians. You are so ignorant, it is our national tragedy to have people like you.

    • Aleksandar be together not the same
      Aleksandar be together not the same 18 күн бұрын

      @Julian Petkov саѓо да крадете знаете затоа ништо и немате бугарска историја мајка ти га продаваш за две црвени 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • Aleksandar be together not the same
      Aleksandar be together not the same 18 күн бұрын

      @Julian Petkov bulgaria only know to steal thats why you don't hage nothing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • Aleksandar be together not the same
      Aleksandar be together not the same 18 күн бұрын

      @Julian Petkov there no bulgarian you are asparux tribe

  • Fruzhin
    Fruzhin 3 жыл бұрын +53

    Correction about Boris 1 of Bulgaria - He didn't die in 889. He abdicated that year to his firstborn son - Vladimir Rasate, who, in turn, got taken down after trying to bring back paganism. In 893 Boris called a concil with which was decided that Boris's third son Simeon would take the throne.
    Also the map of the ninth century is incorrect on the Serbo-Bulgarian border

  • Mza
    Mza 4 жыл бұрын +1569

    I wonder if our ancestors also wore Adidas tracksuits?

    • kazuya^killer:]
      kazuya^killer:] 29 күн бұрын +1

      @some channel finally someone with mind and reason, I'm totally with you mate, Slavs must unite

    • Lord Milo Conningia
      Lord Milo Conningia 2 ай бұрын

      Very nice 😂😂😂

    • some channel
      some channel 2 ай бұрын +2

      @Timax every slavs are russians 🗿every Russian is Slav. Don’t argue just unite Slavs into ussr 2.0 and let’s finally become great inter galactic empire again

    • Dimitre Kamenov
      Dimitre Kamenov  Жыл бұрын

      Bla blaa bla

    • Filip Komljenovic
      Filip Komljenovic  Жыл бұрын

      @Filip Mac nice name

  • Biff -
    Biff - 11 ай бұрын +28

    The main reason why Bulgaria was so successful is because Asparuh convinced local Slavs to join him in the battle against the Byzantines. When they won he founded Bulgaria as a country of both Bulgars and Slavs together. Bulgar nobility ruled exclusively for a few generations initially but regarded both peoples equally and they soon merged into one culture.
    The early rulers practiced genuine nation building in a style reminiscent of Thracian nobility. Thracian scripts may have also been a basis for the Cyrillic script.

  • Ante Gelo
    Ante Gelo 4 жыл бұрын +251

    Ah that lovely balkan.... The place full of peace and fights, what to say, arguing is in our blood.

    • Benjamin
      Benjamin 7 ай бұрын +3

      Slovenia is one of the most peaceful nations in the world, so it doesn't have to be this way.

    • Lynn Loud Gaming
      Lynn Loud Gaming 10 ай бұрын

      U serious
      That was when there were wars about a decade ago

    • Luka Babic
      Luka Babic  Жыл бұрын +8

      @19 98 LOL. Dude u never existed.

    • Luka Babic
      Luka Babic  Жыл бұрын +3

      Let's fight Croat! 😄

    • 19 98
      19 98  Жыл бұрын +2

      🖤🇦🇱AUTOCHTONOUS SHQIPTARIA🇦🇱🖤

  • Moredread25
    Moredread25 2 жыл бұрын +16

    One thing that I always think is important to mention about ancient settlements in the Balkans is that we have to remember that they didn't have access to the New World vegetables like potatoes which are better suited for mountainous areas.
    Good presentation. South Slavic history is complicated because of how many people move into and around the area and how political the history is today.

  • KniteOfLite
    KniteOfLite 2 жыл бұрын +391

    Its funny how the world, especially "the West" only talks about frankish, english, and sometimes germanic history. And they only make TV shows, and movies about those nations/cultures. But in the balkans(and in general in every slavic country) you could find so many interesting, historicaly accurate topics that you could make an epic movie or a tv show. Just take the croatian-serbian history(i'm not talking about the 20th cenutry, but early history) there are so many interesting events, and stories.

    • Rayna Tumbeva
      Rayna Tumbeva 14 күн бұрын

      @Atis Nicholson neither linear A, nor linear B is related to phoenician script. Like, at all. Hellenics start using it after centuries of no writings.

    • KniteOfLite
      KniteOfLite 16 күн бұрын

      @The Proof I agree

    • The Proof
      The Proof 17 күн бұрын

      Брат смотря о ком мы говорим когда используем "Запад". Обычным обывателям да всё равно на всех кроме себя, но разве так не везде?
      А что касается людей образованных, то там много специалистов по востоку или славянам в частности.

    • Antonio Klaic
      Antonio Klaic 2 ай бұрын

      @Srdjan Basaric to je moderna Grcka republika, ne Grcka kultura. To je poslije nego sto su dobili neovisnost od Osmana, koji su preuzeli Bizantsko carstvo tojest Istocni Rim koji je pricao Grcki, koji je nastao jer je Rim oborio Grcku, t.j. Makedon i ostale manje Grcke drzavice (poslije Aleksandra). I to nisu Sjeverni Makedonci. Sama anticka grcka je inspirirana od Fenicana i Perzijskog carstva i Minoanske civilizacije na Kreti.
      Isto Vincani nisu Srbi samo su se nalazili na tom podrucju. Moras biti ogroman narcisist da si to umislis. Oni su postojali u jos drevnijem vremenu kad su Europljani vecinom bili u plemenima koji su i migrirali. U tom vremenu nije ni bilo slavena na Balkanu niti pismenih slavena.
      Nisi ni rekao da su Vinčani (moderni) srbi ali sam svejedno to dodao ako je to implikacija.

    • Chris Kechagias
      Chris Kechagias 6 ай бұрын

      @M VP Greeks?

  • m g
    m g 2 жыл бұрын +96

    A great video! In the end you say that the slavic Balkans wasn't completely slavicised and that there were a lot of non-slavic speaking groups. This is very true. I know that in Croatia, the dalmatian cities were not fully slavicised until well after the middle ages, with the last speaker of the Dalmatian Romance language having died in 1898. In parallel, many speakers of eastern romance languages lived in the hills and became Vlachs and Morlachs, leading a transhumance pastoralist life. The actual Slavs initially mostly inhabited tha pannonian part of Croatia and the fertile parts of the coast, leaving the cities, the mountains and the smaller islands to the romance speakers. The romance languages later faced a double pressure to assimilate either into slavic speakers or into Venetian/Italian, which accelerated their disapparence.

    • zivkovicable
      zivkovicable 2 ай бұрын +2

      Substantial remnants of Dalmatian Romance language survive in the dialects of the Dalmatian Islands today, many of which are uninteligable to most mainland Croatians. Some ethnic Italians from Istria & central Dalmatia slavicised their names during the course of the 20th century, my mothers family included.

    • goran miljus
      goran miljus  Жыл бұрын

      Many were also ETHNICALLY CLEANSED to Italy by the USTASHA.

    • Toni Krvavica
      Toni Krvavica 2 жыл бұрын +9

      I am really disappointed that Delmat language is dead. It looks like a pretty language

    • Trash Bockmist
      Trash Bockmist 2 жыл бұрын +2

      A great Comment!

  • Keegan Moonshine
    Keegan Moonshine 3 жыл бұрын +16

    wow you are the first person I've ever seen mention that part about one of the brothers taking his people to modern-day macedonia. very interesting to think about. Always assumed that the Bulgarian migration occurred after this time period when Bulgaria was more established and migrants started to move south.

    • Chris Kechagias
      Chris Kechagias 6 ай бұрын

      @Xforex thanks for your comment xD

    • Xforex
      Xforex  Жыл бұрын +8

      Yeah and macedonians still claim to be descendants of alexander

    • IK
      IK 2 жыл бұрын +11

      One of the brothers settled in today's Italy, hence you have last names such as Bulgaro, Bulgari, Bulgarini, Bulgarelli, etc. and a town in central Italy called Bulgare.

  • Кр-kr В
    Кр-kr В Ай бұрын

    Where did Asparukh's portrait come from, only Byzantine miniatures have been preserved, no one knows how he looked.

  • Skule
    Skule 3 жыл бұрын +23

    sadly the video didn't go far enough for us to learn how bosnia came to be but still a lovely video about my people and our history!! And ofc i hope you make a part 2 of some sort , i would love that , the slavic history is rarely covered here on youtube

    • Goran Vukša
      Goran Vukša 23 күн бұрын

      @Devil’s advocate oh God where do you people come up with this childish nonsense.
      He was crowned in Serbian monastery Mileševa, built by Serbian King Vladislav, at the relics of Saint Sava of Serbia.
      The point was not the part of the title which says "of Serbs", but the fact that there is no part which says "of Bosnians". You see, Serbia is a country that is named by the Serbian people. Bosnia is a region (today a country) named by the river, and Bosnians are named by it, like you would be named Texan if you are from Texas. So, when crowned, given the fact that he ruled over all of Bosnia and beyond, he would be the ruler of all Bosnian people, meaning that if there was a specific group of people who considered themselves as Bosnians in the ethnic sence, he would include them (probably at the first place), in his title. Also I had quoted here part of his letter in which he de facto states that he considers Bosnia as what would be called "Serbian lands".
      Moreover, there is not a single mention in the entire history, up until today, of Bosnian nation/ethnicity. For example "Dictionary of Bosnian language" from 17th century was written by the Turk, had only Arabic words significant for Islam, and in the introduction stated it is written (remember in Bosnia for Bosnian slavic population) for SERBS converting to Islam.
      But given the fact that the burden of proof should be on those making an assertion, please I can't wait for the laughs of you trying to prove your nonesensical claim.

    • Devil’s advocate
      Devil’s advocate 23 күн бұрын

      @Goran Vukšathat’s not true. Tvrtko was crowned in Bosnia. He took a title of “king of Serbs” because of his family connection. That’s nothing unusual… Germanic kings ruled over Russia, French ruled over English… etc.

    • biggie_boss
      biggie_boss Ай бұрын

      @Goran Vukša Typical Serb propagandist making stuff up, disgusting. He literally was the first king of Bosnia and claimed himself as such. Nobody is denying he had distant Serbian heritage, but he considered himself Bosnian first. He had to literally be convinced to push the claim for the Serbian crown and, like I said, that was only after the Serbian lands fell into disunity. Keep coping, Bosnia will never be Serbian. Don't bother replying to me, I'm blocking you like I do with all Chetniks.

    • Goran Vukša
      Goran Vukša Ай бұрын

      @biggie_boss That's absolute gibberish, to be honest. Tvrtko was Ban of Bosina, his first title of the King was that of Serbs, he was crowned in Serbian monastery at the grave of Saint Sava, with the Nemanjić dynasty crown (you can't get more Serbian than that).
      Medieval lords and rulers were always calling themselves by the regions they've been ruling over. Small example outside of Serbs, Garibald I was known as "King of Bavaria", no one would question the fact that he was German when it comes to his ethnicity, and this was all the way back in the 6th century. Or later, Louis the Younger was also King of Bavaria, yet he was the son of Louis the German. Serbian Tzar Dušan the Mighty was "Macedonian Tzar", the founder of Nemanjić dynasty was Grand Duke of Zeta, his son was King of Raška. Yet all three were Serbs, even the central figures of Serbian history.
      You must take the wider context, which includes the fact that Tvrtko himself calls him the King of Serbs, never the King of Bosnians (people) only Bosnia (region), which would be impossible if he had ruled over people who view themselves as ethnical Bosnians, and that he undoubtedly considered Bosina as part of the Serbian lands, as I have given the example. Also, when talking about history, you must take everything in the context of that historical time period, and not confuse modern nation-states and political nations with the medieval societal organizations and ethnicities.

    • biggie_boss
      biggie_boss Ай бұрын +1

      @Goran Vukša Good job destroying your own argument. Tvrtko didn't take the title of King of Serbia until after the Serbian principalities were collapsing. His primary title he held was King of Bosnia. "A Serbian logothete named Blagoje, having found refuge at Tvrtko's court, attributed to Tvrtko the right to a "double crown": one for Bosnia, which his family had ruled since its foundation, and the other for the Serbian lands of his Nemanjić ancestors, who had "left the earthly realm for the heavenly kingdom". ". Furthermore, Bosnian as a nationality existed well before Tvrtko. Look up the Charter of Ban Kulin where he calls himself a Bosnian, not a Serbian. Stop trying to diminish our heritage. Bosnians are Bosnians and it has nothing to do with religion.

  • mmitak
    mmitak Ай бұрын +2

    Thanks for a great overview!
    Some details I've pick up for myself over the years I can share for expanded context around what constituted the First Bulgarian state:
    - The tribe that gave us our Bulgarian name(or at least a tribe by that name) is mentioned in Chinese sources a heck of a long ago in BC times already; that tribe arrived in the moder-ish day lands of Bulgaria with around as little as 100 000 people, 10 000 of them as a cavalry-dominant khan’s army
    - They integrated with a local populace of ~2-2.5 million people, mostly Slavic tribes but also substantial numbers (maybe up to 40%) are still Thracian tribes and romanized urban populations
    - It is not exactly clear if that integration was by force or by synergy - Slavic tribes were a predominantly infantry-centered force, and vastly outnumbered the Bulgarians, yet the Bulgarian clans held the succession of titles
    - Converting to Christianity was a way to both centralize power and unite the populace. The son of Boris when he took over power reverted the change, so old Boris had to step away from the monastery, grab his sword, and have a counter-revolution ending with the blinding of his son.

  • Kÿå Høń
    Kÿå Høń 4 жыл бұрын +43

    Thank you for this video! It provides the context for some of the things you mentioned in your western slavic history video while explaining southern slavic settlement in a straightforward way. I look forward to your eastern slavs video!

  • Toni Šare
    Toni Šare 3 жыл бұрын +13

    You have great videos! Very complicated topic with a lot of missing puzzle pieces, but explained in a very simple and understandable way

  • Blalack77
    Blalack77 2 жыл бұрын +5

    These are the places I'm most curious about and would most like to visit - along with Anatolia and the -stan countries. They're fascinating to me since they're kind of like border areas between multiple cultures - at least historically.

  • Piotr Wiara
    Piotr Wiara 4 жыл бұрын +395

    Greetings to Slavic brothers from Slovenia Serbia and Croatia. Pozdrowiena dla braci Słowian Słoweńców Serbów i Chorwatów !!!!

  • Krupam
    Krupam 3 жыл бұрын +377

    6:34 "So the Balkans were in this constant flux of uncertain political control by various groups."
    Huh, and they say history doesn't repeat itself.

    • 99Boiko
      99Boiko  Жыл бұрын

      Yep, especially when history is helped along the way by outside forces.

    • Mrs. Hancock
      Mrs. Hancock  Жыл бұрын

      The difference between today and then was the fluxing within ethnic tribes of Europeans.

    • Jack Pugh
      Jack Pugh 2 жыл бұрын +1

      Where did you find that information

    • Balrogg97
      Balrogg97 2 жыл бұрын +8

      "History doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes."

    • sciolist
      sciolist 2 жыл бұрын +31

      Said nobody ever
      The actual saying is that history DOES repeat itself.

  • Joze Jerse
    Joze Jerse 4 ай бұрын +8

    Good representation of Slovenia. Even Slovenes rarely know of the fact that we have common roots with Czechs and Slovaks. Even though we no longer share national or cultural border, we still have more in common that with our southern neighbours.

    • Washing Machine
      Washing Machine 12 күн бұрын

      Many modern day South Slavs's ancestors came from Poland or Czech Republic

    • Andreman
      Andreman 2 ай бұрын

      Anyway all slavs share a lot of common stuff

  • K. Kajko
    K. Kajko 4 жыл бұрын +58

    I really like your videos, everything is presented very clearly and reasonably. I can see the huge ammount of work you put into this. Keep up the great work. Pozdrowienia z Polski! :)

  • KraliMishev
    KraliMishev 2 жыл бұрын +8

    Thank you. Finding a good and unbiased video about the Balkans made by brothers usually goes south real fast.

  • Stjepan Salopek
    Stjepan Salopek 2 жыл бұрын +7

    13:48 The reason for the invention of Cyrillic script may not have been the fact that Glagolitic script was not suitable for Old Bulgarian / Old Church Slavonic, since both Glagolitic and Cyrillic script had had pretty much the same letters (for comparison visit en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glagolitic_script#Characteristics ), including the Slavic letters such as "Yat". Perhaps the reason was more the fact that Glagolitic script is more difficult to learn / teach / read.
    That's not to say that Glagolitic script is worse (but it is more difficult). It is arguably one of the most beautiful scripts, similar to the current Georgian script, and also, a lot of the letters that sound the same, e.g. "G" and "H", also have similar looking letters (Ⰳ and Ⱈ), which is not the case in, for example Latin alphabet.

  • Damian Matras
    Damian Matras 4 жыл бұрын +11

    I love your animation skills. And I love the use of very detailed map, very very detailed map with detail rivers and mountain heights showed in colours; with such map you can see different layers of history.

  • Ive Fabris
    Ive Fabris Күн бұрын

    I live in Istria the most western part, my hometown was founded by the romans and remained roman until the 9th centuary. There is a very important document called the Risana Placit (Rižanski Placit or Placito di Risana) from 814th that regards slavic imigrations and problem with the new frankish rule, the towns and cities that are complaining are still very much latin. Another thing, we still speak a dialect that is officially croatian, but it could easily pas as a Slovenian dialect, as we have many words from old slavic..

  • Todor Todorov
    Todor Todorov 4 жыл бұрын +148

    Small corection - Boris the First died in 907 not in 887. I see why you may have been cnofused since he abdicated the throne to his firstborn and the thirdborn son (hella of a infighting)

  • Николай Павлов
    Николай Павлов 2 жыл бұрын +11

    Good stuff, would love a video more focused on Bulgaria

  • Stefano Gatto
    Stefano Gatto 3 жыл бұрын +5

    your video is great! You cover a period that was totally unknown by me, but actually it helps quite a bit to explain where we stand today. Thank you!

  • Michael Aleksovski
    Michael Aleksovski 4 жыл бұрын +70

    Honestly, that was the best video on this subject I have ever seen! Congratulations!

  • Jan Gelbrich
    Jan Gelbrich 2 жыл бұрын +5

    Thanks for not only painting these maps, but also mentioning what information sources we have, and which we dont have. Also, using the geographic map as underlying base is a very good idea!

  • Plamen Kolev
    Plamen Kolev 4 жыл бұрын +4

    Thank you for your effort to picture one of the most dynamic areas in the Medieval Europe. Still the origins of the bulgarian ethnic people was under a discussion in science, but there were two independent scientific researches that tried to test all the possible variations. They used bones and teeth for this task. Scientists were barely able to isolate the thracian genome back in 2012 and finally reached to the conclusions that the bulgarians/proto-bulgarians/ have nothing common with turkic / altay ethnic groups. /With all due respect to this culture/. The bulgarian genome is mostly closer to the people from Croatia and Slovakia today. Although I do not accept that we are slavic people, still it is very difficult to state how common we have with the slavs genetically, because slavs tribes used to burn the dead and left no remains and necropolises.

    • Tomor Karalliu
      Tomor Karalliu 3 жыл бұрын +1

      It is said that croatians are the most slavic people in the balkans, with 65% slavic lineage, the servs are only 50% , what about bulgarians or westbulgarians ?

  • D. M. Collins
    D. M. Collins 3 жыл бұрын +3

    Amazingly well-researched, and I love the graphics! It filled in a lot of gaps that the History of Byzantium, just by virtue of its mission statement, didn't have time to fill in.

  • The BJ
    The BJ 4 жыл бұрын +6

    You are just amazing. Telling us the history just like it is, not like some little Balkan countries wish it was.

  • Stephan Marinovic
    Stephan Marinovic 2 жыл бұрын +2

    Great video.
    With so much information, I know that it is impossible to mention everything. I do have a couple of small details that were not mentioned as it pertains to Croats settling the area. The first being that there was some kind of treaty or offer of settlement (contingent on Christianizing) from either Rome or Byzantium extended to Croats to settle the region after it was largely vacated due to raids and economic ruin. For the life of me, I can't recall the name of the document or where it can be found. A similar situation may have occurred with Serbs, given that they entered the area around the same and managed to unify the Slavs who were there before them.
    The other thing I would mention was that the Croatian Kingdom allied with Byzantium during one of their wars with the Bulgarian empire. As such, they were rewarded with Southern Dalmatia, which demographically, had already become largely Slavic any way. The Adriatic coast remained largely Slavic demographically until later Venetian colonization which brought back some Latin populations.

  • Phobics
    Phobics  Жыл бұрын +2

    Its pretty funny, Cyril and Method created Hlaholika for the Western slavs, then Svatopluk started leaning towards Frankia and they instead started using latin so Cyril and Method turned to another slavic country and gave them the alphabet lol

  • Dorian Brlić
    Dorian Brlić 6 ай бұрын +4

    Croatia has a big history of "You are not gonna own us, we are gonna break free" a LOT

  • Don Jon
    Don Jon  Жыл бұрын +7

    It's always a blessing seeing my country Slovenia mentioned anywhere. I know it's corny, but we are always forgotten by everyone.

    • Xforex
      Xforex  Жыл бұрын

      @Frosty we are also tatars and mongols snd gypsies abd turks

    • Xforex
      Xforex  Жыл бұрын

      @Frosty yes we are facist occupators

    • Frosty
      Frosty  Жыл бұрын

      @Xforex 5? Try 100 and also it was occupied by you guys but never urs

    • Xforex
      Xforex  Жыл бұрын

      @Frosty maybe because your “country” started existing 5 years ago and has been historically always a part of bulgaria yet now you are descendants of alexander from thousnads of years ago

    • Frosty
      Frosty  Жыл бұрын +4

      Bruh same for macedonia

  • Daniel Iliev
    Daniel Iliev 4 жыл бұрын +3

    Easily one of the best videos covering such an all-encompassing and impossibly complex topic. I want MOAR!

  • Richard Petranek
    Richard Petranek 4 жыл бұрын +4

    Thank you so much for your work in putting these videos together.... I have learned a great deal and look forward to more of your videos Again thank you

  • Kristian Angelov
    Kristian Angelov  Жыл бұрын +1

    by accident I found ur channel, with the very first video, you won a subscriber. the way u showed the information is remarkable - very distinctly and accurate, subaltern on facts, no sci-fi, straight on the point.

  • Tzimisce
    Tzimisce 2 ай бұрын

    Pretty good video! Must've taken an eternity to research. The Balkans is a rough historical vacuum to cover, well done! Way better than most other videos about the subject.
    I just have one genuine question; I keep seeing this everywhere, but nobody seems to know what the actual evidence is apart from invoking a nationalist historian:
    What is the evidence that there were any Serbs west of the Drina river and any Croats east of the Una river before 897 CE, or that either of the two countries had borders inside of Bosnia? (I mean archaeological or written evidence, or something concrete, or at least circumstantial, deductive and identifiable)
    From what I know, there is archaeological evidence for an unknown culture with strange huts with an unidentified architecture in the vicinity of Sarajevo (found by Irma Cremosnik in the 1970's), dated back to around 551 CE, and is thought to be the wave of Slavs that Procopius wrote about arriving to Dalmatia in the spring of 551 CE. And during the synods of Salona in 530 & 535 CE, the region between today's Tomislavgrad up to the Sava river and east to the Drina river (judging by the borders of Dalmatia and the surrounding bishoprics' locations) was named "Bestoensis" which was under the supervision of Andreas the bishop, whose supervisor was the archbishop of Salona called Honorius. There's also mention of a small part of the Herules crossing the Danube and entering into Dalmatia before that, and an Illyrian governor from "Gratiana"(Gradiska on the Sava river) warning Amalasuntha about invading "his city" Gratiana. So there were non-Croat, non-Serb Slavs, Illyrians, some Herules and probably descendants of retired Roman soldiers there in 551 CE. Anonymus Ravennatis wrote around 700 CE that there are different countries in the middle of Dalmatia.
    But between then and the mention of Pribina of Nitra fleeing from the Franks to Ratimir across the Sava river in 838 CE, there's no mention of any rivers, landmarks, cities or such inside of the whole of Bosnia. And then Anastasius Bibliothecarius designated Bosnia as an independent country in 876 CE (Tibor Zivkovic, De Conversione Croatorum Et Serborum, 2012). Then Steven Runciman found some evidence that Petar Gojnikovic invaded and conquered Bosnia around 900 CE but was unable to conquer Zachumlia, John V.A. Fine thinks it was in 897 CE (Magyars destroyed Slavonia in 895 CE), and in 950 CE the De Administrando Imperio is written, Porphyrogenitus copies the terms from Anastasius when he writes about Bosnia as a "country within a country" and doesn't list its two ecumenical centers Desnik and Katera as just another 2 centers belonging to the Serbian state, and then some time after Porphyrgenitus' death, around 960 CE Caslav is drowned in the Sava or Drina by the Magyars, and Bosnia is independent again up until 968 CE when they lose the Battle of Vrbas against the Croats and that's the first time I know of Croatia having Bosnia as part of its territory. (Osman Karatay, 2003, "In Search of the Lost Tribe: The Origins and Making of the Croatian Nation")
    So between 551-897 CE, how do we know that Serbia and Croatia had any land at all inside of Bosnia, let alone reaching that far inside?
    Judging by the circumstantial evidence, it seems like the Hungarian destruction of Lower Pannonia / Slavonia made it easy for Serbia to conquer Bosnia, which implies that Bosnia might have been part of Lower Pannonia up until 897 CE rather than Serbia and/or Croatia. Especially since Braslav was the last duke of Lower Pannonia, and he disappears in 896 CE. The Slavs of Lower Pannonia have craniometrically different skulls than contemporary Croat craniums (Hrvoje Gracanin, 2008), they also seem to have been pagan from what I could gather, which coincides with the story of Theophanes Continuatus that many Slavs in the region left Christianity in reaction to Frankish oppression, and there are inscriptions of Frankish missionaries from the 9th century in a church or monastery near the spring of the Bosna river.
    Also, I don't know of any evidence that the Serbs and Croats were present in the Balkans before 750 CE when there is archaeological evidence near Zlatibor in Serbia and in Croatia there's the font of Viseslav and such from that time. But they're not mentioned anywhere as being in the Balkans until 822 CE (The Royal Frankish Annals / Annales Regni Francorum). There are some letters from the pope to an Aquilean or Istrian governor, worrying about the advances of Slavs into Aquilea and their possible entrance into Italy, but they're still not mentioned by name, and nothing really seems to imply that they're Serbs or Croats.

  • Michail Maris
    Michail Maris 4 жыл бұрын +8

    I know this is unrelated, but how did you make those maps? Also, I love all the detail you put into a subject people tend to generalize!!

  • Saturn Productions
    Saturn Productions 3 жыл бұрын +16

    Proud to be South Slavic

  • B A R B A R I C V M
    B A R B A R I C V M 4 жыл бұрын +6

    AHH FINALLY THE DAY HAS COME,I CANNOT WAIT TO WATCH THIS.
    EDIT : I love you,it was worth waiting more then half a year for this video,and you managed to stay perfectly unbiased.Seriously you deserve a fucking medal for this video.

  • Armin Cal
    Armin Cal 2 жыл бұрын +11

    The Iranian influence is visible in some of the names mentioned in this video. Asparukh sounds very Iranian, even Persian as even today asb means horse and rukh could eigher mean face or some sort of miss-pronounciashion of rakhsh which means "lightning or spark", considering that the Bulgar's were nomadic people we can assume that horses played a HUGE role in their society so naming your child after horses would be reasonable. Like "man with a horse as bright as lightning". Also Avars, Avare in modern Persian means "homeless immigrant" like war immigrants or immigrants who's entire city got destroyed by an earthquake, considering that they were nomads it would be reasonable to assume that avare was a pejorarive term used by persians to call them and then the romans also called them by the Persian name and the name stuck, also them signing an alliance with Persia vs Rome could possibly mean that they were somehow related and were aware of that.
    Everything i have said is just speculation.

    • Kosta S
      Kosta S 2 жыл бұрын

      I think I heard that when slavs were still in their original place a Persian tribe (or just from iran, I'm not sure) migrated to where the slavs were and that's the reason slavs pull a resemblance to iranians and have similar words

    • utvara1
      utvara1 2 жыл бұрын

      Aryan
      Erian
      Eran
      Iran

  • Ivan Emilov
    Ivan Emilov 4 жыл бұрын +7

    Great, accurate and unbiased video great job and greetings from Bulgaria!

  • Ellie
    Ellie  Жыл бұрын +7

    Dude, I have studied Bulgarian history quite extensively and I still learned new things about our own history, really impressive! Great overview of the region's history, gives great perspective and I love the animations - thank you for the great work!

  • puppy
    puppy 3 жыл бұрын +5

    Great video! Its was surprisingly well actually! One of the best videos on this subject, good job!

  • Luke
    Luke 3 ай бұрын +1

    The language called "Serbo-Croatian" didn't exist until the 19. century when Croats and Serbs under the banner of pan-slavism created a standard language based on the Eastern Herzegovian and Dubrovnik dialects for their future Yugoslav state. I would argue that modern standard versions of Serbian and Croatian are how each country now calls that language (also sometimes called Bosnian or Montenegrin in their respective countries).
    First written documents of Croatian in the littoral part (Dalmatia) are based on what's today called The Chakavian Dialects which can be mostly unintelligible with normal Serbo-Croatian, same with it's cousin group Kajkavian in Pannonian Croatia which is the closest dialect group to Slovenian and even shares some underlying similarities with Slovak due to it's proximity and late magyarisation of West Pannonian Slavs which probably formed one of the last bridges between West and South Slavs. These two Croatian dialect groups covered a much wider area of early Croatia if not almost it's entirety.
    Just like it was mentioned in the video, there was a Slavic dialect continuum from Carinthia to Thrace. In the later medieval period as Slavic languages (or dialects) solidified the further you went from one Slavic settlement to another the harder it was for the two to understand each other. Although after that the natural continuum was broken by the Ottoman expansions which forced a lot of southern groups northwards.

  • Josipa Vurnek
    Josipa Vurnek 2 ай бұрын

    It is really interesting how in this region for every bigger war fighting ditches were dug not anywhere else but directly almost always on historical sites. Vučedol was completely dug in war. And he was almost like the Paris of the Neolithic.

  • tommy14
    tommy14 4 жыл бұрын +1

    Looks great!
    Look forward to the last of the series. are you going to make them a play list?
    Suggestion - why not do the origins of the norse-germanic, ie the Goths and Vandals and Gepids ending with the Lombards - an show how they moved in the migration period? You might even intertwine the Wends with them.

  • BordoEnes
    BordoEnes 4 жыл бұрын +5

    This is great content! Would you like to do some on Turkic, Iranic or Uralic(Hungarians mainly) groups next?

  • Ваљево је Зап Србија

    But Croatian women were so cute for 1000 years...a MILLENNIUM of love making with foreign troops ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤

  • Matt Silverwolf
    Matt Silverwolf 7 ай бұрын

    I have learned more about the history of my country from a 19 min youtube video than I have from 4 years of history class in school

  • Red Fox Emperor
    Red Fox Emperor 4 жыл бұрын +29

    Good job on the research. As a Bulgarian that is studying currently advanced History of the Balkans I can confirm that most of this is correct keep up the good work.

    • Red Fox Emperor
      Red Fox Emperor  Жыл бұрын

      @Affentaktik But we do have accounts of Catholic and Byzantine writers who had been in contact with the brothers and had also taught many students.
      They would have been there 40 days according to most online info.
      After that they remained in the country for another 6 mounths due to knqz Kotel.

    • Red Fox Emperor
      Red Fox Emperor  Жыл бұрын

      @Affentaktik That can very depending on who you ask.
      We wouldn't have many accounts from back then because writing was still not practiced by many

    • Red Fox Emperor
      Red Fox Emperor  Жыл бұрын +2

      @DIAN I cannot say for sure since I haven't looked that much into it.
      But most dynastic clues will lead to Kubrat who was partially turkik in decent.
      Unfortunately the Bulgars were nomadic trybes that moved across several lands, but they do have traits like pony tails and horse riding much like the later Mongol tribes.

    • DIAN
      DIAN  Жыл бұрын

      Do you agree that the bulgar nomads were of turkic descent? There are many theories and very little evidence

    • Affentaktik
      Affentaktik 3 жыл бұрын

      Red Fox Emperor if you are studying it can you please tell me why or for how long cyril and his brother were exiled in moravia?

  • misteraxl1
    misteraxl1 4 жыл бұрын +88

    I'm a Serb and i can say that video is really great (and amazing that it didn't trigger neither Serbs nor Croats because those videos usually do).
    Just one big inaccuracy that i have to point out: Balkans weren't exactly empty. You make it look like Slavs 100% populated the area which is absolutely not the truth. Southern Slavs are the ''least Slavic'' in ethnic way, we are essentially a mix of Slavs on one side and locals on the other - main haplogroup among Serbs and Croats is the one that originated from here (''Dinaric''), with the second one being a ''Slavic'' haplogroup (the one tied to Poland and West Ukraine mostly). That's why we are a bit darker and physically different from other Slavs (we are taller, have brown hair, stronger chins, essentially we are a ''Dinaric type'' that always was living here, no matter the conquests, Slavic or other). Contrary to popular opinion, we have NO Turkish blood in us, since there is no haplogroup in our genes tied to Turks - we are dark because the original population (Illyrians, Thracians, Romans) were also darker mediteranean types. Culturally of course, we are Slavic.

    • Kitomir Prvi
      Kitomir Prvi Ай бұрын +1

      Yeah, I full-on expected a Croats vs. Serbs fight in the comments but nothing came out of it for once. Though I don't 100% agree with what you said, firstly, "dinaric" is also slavic and while it is true that we have somewhat mixed with the then local population, the darker hair and eyes might simply be a result of the climate in the balkans, which is way warmer and more arid than in the rest of the slavic lands. Centuries of exposure to a specific climate and nature will change the overall appearance, habits and body composition of people, which is why north Croats and Serbs are much lighter compared to, say, a Croat from southern Dalmatia or a Serb from Niš.

    • Bujo Berry
      Bujo Berry 5 ай бұрын +1

      One must not forget that many Illyrians or ancestors of the Albanians were assimilated during the Slavic invasion of the Balkans, hence the Dinaric type, tall and stronger chins. But in my opinion Slovenes, Croats and Bosnians look more like Slavs and Bulgarians and Serbs more like Turks.

    • Vesna Jelovac
      Vesna Jelovac 6 ай бұрын +1

      Not true. Dinaric is also Slavic.

    • Halicos
      Halicos 10 ай бұрын +2

      I guess i stand out because i have blonde hair blue eyes and im light skinned what am i half viking half slav then??.
      Im Serbian btw so explain how im opposite of what you described we are?.

    • Lazar
      Lazar  Жыл бұрын +1

      It is true, we are very tall people

  • Petrin Krastev
    Petrin Krastev 4 жыл бұрын +13

    Good and accurate video! Keep up the good work and greetings from Bulgaria! :)

  • col ba
    col ba 2 жыл бұрын +4

    Laser, You are great! What detail! Fantastic story/history telling! вообще отлично! я поражён! великолепно!

  • Христо Павлов
    Христо Павлов  Жыл бұрын +2

    Awesome video! I wish you do make a video about the bulgarian history .
    Keep it going !

  • Kauê Moura
    Kauê Moura 3 жыл бұрын +27

    Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Montenegro make me think a bit of the Catholic and Protestant Irish.
    ~Look, we're the same people, our ancestors decided that this tiny difference between us was a reason for us kill each other, so we kept on disliking each other because we've harmed each other in the past.

    • maze1411
      maze1411 5 ай бұрын

      Well before the ottomans fucked it all up for us

    • ab past
      ab past 2 жыл бұрын +1

      We have difrent r1a subclades of slavic haplogrups so no

    • T S
      T S 2 жыл бұрын +7

      Probably we are not the same people and we have never disliked each other through out the whole history just up until recently, Germanic people are much wilder and aggressive but they were on the right side of the history so because of their interest and interests of the other major powers it was convenient to stick that label of primitive tribes fighting each other to the Balkan people although that couldn't be far away from the truth

    • Hladan Beton
      Hladan Beton 3 жыл бұрын +4

      But the Troubles ended up working out brilliantly for Ireland, unlike our trashy system of banana-republics

  • phiszabo2 History and Culture
    phiszabo2 History and Culture 4 жыл бұрын +2

    Awesome video, though i'm of the Danau Swab decent i do carry one line of serbian lineage and my family prior to the US lived in the balkans for several hundred years. Great video thoroughly enjoyed this one!

  • History Rhymes
    History Rhymes 4 жыл бұрын +523

    Your channel is simply amazing and very underrated

    • Zeljko Stanisic
      Zeljko Stanisic  Жыл бұрын

      @thatrandomquietdudewhodoesn'tgiveafuck you are blind or stupid
      You are stupid
      😉

    • Zeljko Stanisic
      Zeljko Stanisic 3 жыл бұрын

      @Nedim Istan Ojén hahahaa
      Who no that ?
      History change face
      Day by Day

    • UNS GUS
      UNS GUS 3 жыл бұрын +3

      @kim a hellens was just a small tribe

    • Frankie S
      Frankie S 3 жыл бұрын +1

      @UNS GUS Patria is a greek word

    • Dimitur Slavkov
      Dimitur Slavkov 3 жыл бұрын +1

      there is so many versions..

  • hysenlol
    hysenlol  Жыл бұрын +1

    Very cool video. A video about albania and their pre-medival history would be nice.

  • D84
    D84 4 жыл бұрын +6

    Great video, but you could've covered the Slavic presence in Greece too

  • Dragomir Yankov
    Dragomir Yankov 4 жыл бұрын +92

    Great Video...and really accurately presented the Bulgarian part

    • Tinkorn Hardfist
      Tinkorn Hardfist 7 ай бұрын

      @LeckyBoy That's one of the most accurate parts.

    • Xforex
      Xforex  Жыл бұрын

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    • Heraclius III
      Heraclius III  Жыл бұрын +2

      Ah, Bulgarians, the people who assimilated their own conquerors, also took their Turkic name but didn't give a single fuck like a boss lol

    • Jordan
      Jordan 2 жыл бұрын +3

      @LeckyBoy Maybe that's because my grand grandfather is from Stip, and my other grand grand father is from Drama region in Greece, which is also Macedonia. And that applies to at least 1/3 of Bulgarian people, because we had close to 1 million refugees after the Balkan Wars and First World War from Aegean and Vardar Macedonia. At that time Bulgaria was less than 4 million. And that is one thing that was hidden for you for many years. Among many other things.

    • Венелин Д
      Венелин Д 2 жыл бұрын +3

      @LeckyBoy македония е българска.

  • Elite
    Elite 3 жыл бұрын +22

    for an english speaking guy, you are very good at saying Bulgarian names. Normally our languange is hard.

    • Boris Tzakov
      Boris Tzakov 3 жыл бұрын +1

      The author, many errors in the English text.

    • Elite
      Elite 3 жыл бұрын +1

      @Martin Zvara english speaking

    • Martin Zvara
      Martin Zvara 3 жыл бұрын +6

      He is Slovakian

  • Justin Davis
    Justin Davis 4 жыл бұрын +4

    Informative and highly interesting. Спасибо большое!

  • Boliarin
    Boliarin 3 жыл бұрын +3

    Thank you for this informative and unbiased presentation.

  • Snowmans CZ
    Snowmans CZ 4 жыл бұрын +36

    It wasn´t Samo´s kingdom/ empire but more like Samo´s tribal federation.
    This is a common mistake and I really ejoy your content, continue with making more.

    • blub
      blub 4 жыл бұрын +14

      Slovene historiography's position is that Samo's kingdom was indeed a tribal federation of Slavic 'princedoms'. I suppose we'll never know the exact title he held among the Slavs and the nature of his position, but since Samo was a Frank himself, it's not wrong to assume he styled himself king in the Frankish way, but then again, was probably one only in name. Thanks for a great video, you have my sub!

  • peter andras
    peter andras 3 жыл бұрын +9

    You are walking encyclopedia of history, I realy admire the way explain the history, it shall become part of general education of my country. Like, share. If you want financial support i will glad to aid your work

  • col ba
    col ba 2 жыл бұрын +4

    I can't wait for your later histories of the Slavs! Молодец!

  • Rari tica
    Rari tica 3 ай бұрын +2

    Southern Slavs are so cool to me, love from an Eastern Slav!

  • Hippity Hop
    Hippity Hop  Жыл бұрын +10

    Also you forgot to mention Croatian-Bulgarian Wars in which Croatia gained a lot and Raška(aka Serbia) became Byzantine vasal. Byzantine empire sent gifts and land consessions to Croatian Kingdom (Byzantines gave islands in Dalmatia, scepter and a crown to Croat king).

    • Andrej Ristic
      Andrej Ristic Ай бұрын

      Ne moze da pomene nesto sto se nikada nije desilo .Posalji nam Romejski izvor tvoje tvrdnje ,posto su Romeji sve evidentirali .

  • Hawke
    Hawke 4 жыл бұрын +50

    Wow, great video! Very detailed and informative, thanks for your work, you earned yourself a new sub :)

  • God of the great Kurultaj
    God of the great Kurultaj 4 жыл бұрын +11

    A video about the avars would be great. Really liked this video

    • Tomor Karalliu
      Tomor Karalliu 3 жыл бұрын +1

      Check Bavaria the only name in Europe that has as a root the word Avar. I know the helens say that Albanians are of avarian origin ,and is true that in albania the last name avari exist but that should not confuse us, the name alba, or arvani or arber cannot arrive from the root avar.

  • San Jalig
    San Jalig 4 жыл бұрын +12

    Great video, the gradual transformation of the balkans culture and ethnics, mix with the political struggles of that age are visually brilliant.
    The question that comes in my mind is : how the albanians survived this mess ?
    I imagine something verry similar, were ilyrians, traces, Daces, and germans mix and migrated to the south, were they mix with local romanised illyrians, that prossus toke place between the 5th to 11th centery I imagine.
    I would like your take on that.
    Thanks for the great content ! ^^

    • A. Arianiti
      A. Arianiti  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Eds m There is no Dacian substratum, and the Albanian language doesn't consist of Latin either. Albanian is a fully independent language, most likely the result of a partially Romanized Illyrian dialect in Moesia superior, and a large number of Latin loans has little to do with the 'formation' of a language going back to Indo-European itself.
      The Dacian theory is mostly rejected, since Albanian is grammatically distinct from Thracian, to which Dacian belongs. The idea that Albanian words in Romanian would make Albanians 'Dacians' originally doesn't work, as the Albanian-Romanian contact happened in Kosovo and South Serbia, not in former Dacian regions.

    • Eds m
      Eds m 3 жыл бұрын +2

      @San Jalig The dorian part of the language has vocabulary of trading items which probably came into proto albanian by an intermidiate. I dont think proto albanians had direct contact with greeks as the language would have been much more influenced by it if that be the case. They either sat at the Jireck line or farther north of it. There is shared Dacian substratum in albanian and romanian (I think 60-80 words in albanian and 120-150 in romanian approx) which indicates a form of contact. I've read that Moesians spoke an intermidiate language between Thracian and Dacian sometimes reffered to by linguists as "Daco-Mysian". The Thracians have been conquered by the Dacians in the past (see King Burebista) so that would also support Moesia as an origin. About the latin, I know that the albanian latin has very early Christian vocabulary, and is a mix of the latin spoken in dalmatia and eastern romance. Albanian has also some Germanic loanwords. To give some historical perspective, Moesia didn't have any large settlements. When romans came they found only big villages with some 100 people max. Moesia became part of the Limes during barbarian raids and was heavily struck by war. It is normal to think that a native population would flee because of its geostrategical positioning. There are toponyms in balcans which follow albanian phonetic shifts, like Nish (Naissus), Shkupi (Scupi; modern Skopje). I think this is enough indication to at least give the Moesian theory some credit. I maybe don't know much about Illyrian or am biased, but the Illyrian theory doesnt ring many bells for me.
      I thank you sir, because this is a very interesting topic but sadly it is very difficult to discuss in an unbiased matter because of the modern political landscape.

    • San Jalig
      San Jalig 3 жыл бұрын +3

      @Eds m It's unfortunate that these people didn't write much. I like taking an detective aproche, moesia is a good clue. The other clues that are suggested from the albanian language is that you have 2 types of Latin influences, one of the Republic era. Which indicates the west and then a later influence of the empire era. The dorian part of the language indicates the south. So my supposition is that the modern albanian language formed some were in south West moesia. That the other moesians in the north and the plains around the danub mixed and integrated themselves with the slaves. It explains also why albanians have such an unique mountainous vocabulary, slaves mostly took the plains. But I don't understand why you mention the dacians, they are situated in the north on the otherside of the Danube, Moesia is the place of the dardans in intersection between the illyrians and the tracians. Dacians were not touched by the influance of the Republic era but later. And then they were crushed and assimilated to the goths and the huns. It doesn't make much sense to me.
      Albanians seems to be some kind of retrogenesis of an older tongue, less latinised, who manages to influence some kind of latinised sister language in the south and delatinses it in the middle ages. It explains the two different dialect and why their split is older than the slavic invasion. It all points out to the south west balkan alps. I'm just talking of language here of cours, these groupe of people certainly mixed with the different invaders. Nevertheless, the mountain top preserved the language long enough to not become entirely latinised so that they could, when the time was right, "re-semi-albanise" theire romanised sister language on the coasts and plains in the south.
      It explains also why they spread so fast through the south in the middle ages.
      With this in mind, it makes more sense that they were some kind of "post-dardanians" than dacians.
      Thanks for your comment, you made me think of lots of things.
      Good night.

    • Eds m
      Eds m 3 жыл бұрын +5

      It is impossible to say because the thracians, illyrians and other early balcanites had no writing so we can't compare anything. But giving that the albanian language is mostly compromised of latin and has a dacian substratum as well as dorian greek words compromising trading goods, and given the toponyms in balcans, it is theorised that the albanian language formed before or during the slavic migration in Moesia Superior.

  • pepperVenge
    pepperVenge 4 жыл бұрын +1

    Great video! Such detail. I really enjoyed this!

  • Anur Delic
    Anur Delic 3 жыл бұрын +1

    I hope there will be another video because balkan history is very complex and a lot of other kingdoms form and get involved.

  • gypsymanjeff 21
    gypsymanjeff 21 2 жыл бұрын +1

    1st gen American.of CZ& Hungarian heritage ..love this stuff ..ever single one i see i pass on to kids n grands ..so much was lost from WW1&2 that without folks like you would never be able to sort thru all the B.S.

  • Tyrving
    Tyrving 4 жыл бұрын +1

    wonderfully nuanced approach to the Slavic migrations

  • Alex S
    Alex S 2 жыл бұрын +3

    I wonder, how can the Greek have so much lands but so little Population? I would decree minimum of 3 children per family so Greek populate would expand and settle the frontiers with Greeks.

    • Wanka Wanka
      Wanka Wanka 10 ай бұрын +1

      Much of the land is mountainous and people mostly settled around the mountains

  • Aleksandar Georgiev
    Aleksandar Georgiev 3 жыл бұрын +6

    Really good video, my man! Great job, keep it up!

  • rickdeckard
    rickdeckard 4 жыл бұрын +1

    Fantastic video mate! Can you please send a link for the map image you used for this video, I see it is very high quality and depicts all the topography correctly.

    • rickdeckard
      rickdeckard 4 жыл бұрын

      @M. Laser History Thank you very much!

  • Josip Rubić
    Josip Rubić 3 жыл бұрын +2

    Good video but a lot of the facts are not taken in the consideration. There is a lot of resources that Bysantine actually used Slavs as keepers of their borders.

  • Balkan Mode
    Balkan Mode 4 жыл бұрын +2

    The big picture I gathered from this video is: The Byzantines clashed with the invading Avars and the main beneficiaries turned out to be the other invading group, the Slavs. It almost sounds like a leaderless mass was given a free pass into Byzantine territory without any battle.

  • Shaddy
    Shaddy 2 жыл бұрын +1

    Heavy on the information, light on the propaganda - thank you for the great video!

  • Bulgarian Gaming Batlefield BGB
    Bulgarian Gaming Batlefield BGB 4 жыл бұрын +7

    I really like your videos because they are accurate and you talk about things we actually learn in school

    • Xforex
      Xforex  Жыл бұрын

      @LeckyBoy ive seen you comment twice on this video and both times has been about this

    • Bigger_Mibber
      Bigger_Mibber 2 жыл бұрын +1

      @LeckyBoy But they are?

    • LeckyBoy
      LeckyBoy 3 жыл бұрын

      Mostly true, except for the part where it says that Macedonians and Bulgarians are the same and are 'brothers'

  • tijana gojic
    tijana gojic 2 жыл бұрын +67

    I had to pause several times so that the narrator could catch breath.

  • sedeslav
    sedeslav 3 жыл бұрын +2

    Pretty much accurate. I must admit . and in accord of latest historical researching of that. Only ....it will add more light on history of this region if you mentioned first Croatian King Tomislav who was very successful ruler and warrior and won several battles against Magjars and Bulgars,

  • Renato Sabato
    Renato Sabato 9 күн бұрын

    Great video!!!! As a suggestion, for non native English speakers (such as myself) you could probably speak a little slower. Some words I had trouble understanding

  • ocilek
    ocilek 2 жыл бұрын +1

    Před pár dny jsem objevil tvůj kanál a zamiloval jsem si ho. V jednom videu máš obrovské množství informací. Anglicky umím relativně dobře, ale tak velké množství informací by se mi lépe vstřebávalo v tvém rodném jazyce. Mám rád historii a miluju mapy, takže takže tvůj kanál je přesně pro mě.

    • Jiri Tichy
      Jiri Tichy 3 ай бұрын +1

      I'll translate it for you: I discovered your channel a couple of days ago and I love it. You have lots of information in just one video. I speak English relatively well, but I could digest this huge amount of information better in my mother tongue. I love history, including maps and your channel is great for me.

  • Zarcation Andrei
    Zarcation Andrei 4 жыл бұрын +2

    Great video! Could you do one about Romanians?

  • Leopold Ivesic
    Leopold Ivesic 3 жыл бұрын +1

    Very informative and useful thank you

  • Rebecca Schuster
    Rebecca Schuster  Жыл бұрын +1

    GREAT Video..Do you know if there are any vital records from Montego between 1600 and 1800?

  • David Chipps
    David Chipps 2 жыл бұрын +3

    Thank you. I enjoyed that. Being part Slovene is confusing.

  • Dios1ish
    Dios1ish 10 ай бұрын +1

    This is really e good video that shows the migration of Slavs into the Balkan or Illyrian Peninsula.

  • Velislav Lonev
    Velislav Lonev 3 жыл бұрын +5

    You did your homework bro, thats a hard history to follow good job.