I like the part where Sauron was about to hit that guy with his sword, but then Galadriel came up behind him and said, "Hey Sauron!" Then Sauron slowly turned around, and Galadiel said, "Saur on this!" and blew him away with a shotgun.
Lol, i was waiting for this to be talked about, what has the world become. Good news is we all about to be nuked because they think Russia’s nukes don’t work. Hey Mike Tyson is in his 50’s i bet he doesn’t have knockout power anymore, Let’s gooooo
As a woman I hate the fact that being a strong woman in modern media very often means having no compassion, understanding, pity, love towards anybody. The "strong woman" in modern media often wields a sword (or a gun), punches harder than a man twice her size, is smug, arrogant, short sited and antagonizes those around her. But for some reason these characteristics are portrayed as something desirable. I wish that Hollywood would remember that strength and compassion are not mutually exclusive and weak men don't automatically make the female characters look good. With this modern storytelling everybody loses. Also, I hate the fact that elves in this don't sound like elves, hobbits don't sounds like hobbits...everybody sounds the same, everybody acts the same...at least in episode 1, stopped watching it after that.
@SerenaHahn I am not. As I said, I want well-written characters, regardless of their gender. The show doesn't reflect Tolkien's Middle Earth because the writing on the show is not exactly great.
@E I thought 90% of Men being idiots (and 10% being hot) standing next to Galadriel just reflected the middle Earth they lived in that age. Sorry for calling you a fundamentalist, but sometimes you suspiciously sound like one
@SerenaHahn I am not a fundamentalist. I just think that making men look like idiots just so the female character can be a badass is bad writing. I like characters who are engaging and interesting because they are well written, regardless of their gender.
@E Sauron is one of the main characters and a role with more screen time and I imagine more pay than isildur. So let's call it what it is, Charlie Vickers would probably fire his agent if he were cast as Isildur instead of Sauron. Amazon didn't even tell him he was Sauron when they filmed episode 1. Look up #haladriel and you can see that "nobody wants Galadriel to be with Sauron" really only means you and your fundamentalist friends dont want Galadriel to be with one of the few people who she doesn't have to deal with their fragile egos (uh, like most MEN)
@Daniel Goh I think that a character can be strong in more than one way. Beth Harmon is really good at what she does and eventually defeats her demons without punching people left and right. Molly Gibson from "Wives and Daughters" while being kind, shy, and too selfless at time, has wits and a moral compass that Cynthia is lacking. The Marquis in "Neverwhere" is smart, cunning, resourceful. There are lots and lots of characters in media and literature that are strong, compelling and relatable and they don't need to throw a punch to be so. I am not saying that a badass warrior princess kind of character cannot be fun, I just think that Galadriel should not be portrayed as one, because her character in the books is not about that. I wish that some writers in Hollywood would write their characters as people, first and foremost. But the modern storytelling in many cases reduces women to angry badasses and men to idiots who either cannot tie their shoelaces or are trying to undermine the strong female characters for no other reason but because they are men. I can see the appeal of this kind of writing but for me it makes characters very one-note. I said that those negative character traits are portrayed as desirable because they are often displayed by the main character, the one that we are supposed to be rooting for and they are not written as flaws that the main character needs to overcome. I don't know what the future holds for Galadriel in this show, but for a main character she is tedious to watch.
@Manly Manuel Some of the writing is really bad. Like Isildur's sister getting her Yale acceptance lett...I mean guild acceptance letter, a rock-smashing contest, Sauron fist-fighting some blacksmiths! Characters are using words like "project" and "partner", I suspect the Thesaurus was outlawed on set. It is a very pretty-looking show, but for me it's style over substance.
@E Bro save your self from the horror that is this show. I've had it on my phone for a month now, and it's so fucking boring that it literally feels like a chore to get through an episode.
@TheBlueArmageddon I am not that bothered by the lack of beards. I know that some people are, but I believe that the show has bigger issues. Like the writing.
The part where Sauron acknowledges his privilege and agrees to reduce his carbon emissions by using the ring of wind power was a beautiful redemption arc
"The rings of power by contrast is a cheap,clumsy, derivative copy commissioned by a company that thinks it can BUY its way into cultural relevance." That's so true. You cannot BUY that.
@Lauri It might not be the absolute worst, and anyone who manages to enjoy it is fully entitled to that opinion. But most of the hate aimed at this show is due to the MOTIVES of its creators. These people absolutely have no interest in upholding the source material or respecting the fans. And if that’s how they feel about us, most of us feel no obligation to be merciful. A close friend enjoyed the show, and that’s ok. But I am not inclined to support creators who think they know far better than Tolkien about how to craft a world and a story. Especially when these people preemptively attacked the fans before we ever had a chance to form any opinions. They chose to make this personal, and the fans are entitled to fight back.
too right... sadly i tried to watch a couple of episodes... they were so bad i was truly impressed - i couldn't even watch a whole episode and fast forwarded to find something worth watching .. i avoided watching any of the reviews saying it's bad so i could make up my own mind... sheesh... was so obviously impossible to watch a a tolkein fan....
I love part where Galadriel used her rainbow lightsabre to blow up the corporate patriarchy, I mean death star, and forced Sauron to milk the space giraffe for blue tittie milk as she correctly respected all of the ewoks pronouns while telling Darth Vader how problematic he was for not having gender reassignment surgery after he was nearly burned to death
You do realize that the person with the IP rights to Star Wars calls them "laser swords" not "light sabres," right? You Lucas the "maverick genius" sold out, right?
In the original book "The Silmarilion" Galadriel is just a passenger who travel from Valinor to the middle earth. In the other hand we have Gil Galad, Hurin, Melian and the valad of Beren, that are really great parts of the book (if we don't count Melkor).
@Josué Ortega let's hope it stays there for at least another decade or three. I've waited for a Silmarillion adaptation since I was a kid. Now it seems like this one dream should stay just that.
I think there is some sort of legal block over the Silmarillion proper, that's why the TV series is loosely based on the Akallabêth (the fall of Númenor) instead
And let's not forget that Galadriel was banned from returning to Valinor because of her lust for power after the ruin of Beleriand. It wasn't until she resisted the temptation to take the one ring that she redeemed herself and was allowed to go home.
The part where Sauron justifies cutting down trees by saying he and his orcs are vegan, made me question who are the baddies. Truly inspirational and brave
The part where Amazon said "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message" as it lit a massive money mountain of $1 billion on fire was the most shocking thing I ever witnessed.
@Dinesh Bezos has been strong-arming millions of product creators for nickels and dimes for decades. Idk wtf you're talking about. He sure as shit cares about $1 billion. I mean, have you ever seen an Amazon warehouse? They monitor every employee at every second for maximum productivity. The dude squeezes every cent out of every inch of his business.
@Dinesh even more shocking is you thinking billionaires got to where they are by not minding $1bi failures. Sure, it's not like Beezos is going broke, but if you think he won't act on that loss, or that he doesn't care, think again.
@Perry Mason "You apparently know nothing of the Professor, his worldview, his sense of life, his influences and his experiences. And obviously nothing of his actual words." OK, "perrymason" named after a Boomer TV star, academics far more educated on Tolkein than me have described the gender roles and ethnic coding with a preference towards eugenics in Tolkien's writing. I'm not going to debate you on that point; you can discus that with them. " Virtue? Salvation?" we are talking about a streaming entertainment show that most people just play in the background on their phones while running on a treadmill.. No need to put religion into it. "looking for genuine human connection but where you will find none." Thank you but I must decline your thirsty Post. You sound like an "elder Millenial" just barely missing the Xer mark. I can be your chat buddy, nothing more.
@SerenaHahn Um, what? First, no, whatever your take that term to mean. Second, you completely ignored my points. Are you frightened to give them serious consideration? It's time to get serious Serena. Time to adult and treat others with respect and have a heavy dose of humility, without making up garbage from your high school teacher's ideological talking points. Or CNN's. And I'm not in Generation X. I'm a millennial. "Do better" :)
@Scurvy McGruff that's called audiences responding to "the world we live in today." So Explain why the diverse cast of FF9 destroyed box office returns of the white revenge fantasy, "The Northman" despite its the top tier academy award nominee/winning White-Only cast?
@SerenaHahn You're clearly too obsessed with the color of peoples skin. You're making completey ridiculous comparisons and implying that people go to see movies based on the skin color of the cast alone. That's called racism.
@Joxar For me it's like the start wars prequels. It was my introduction into the franchise. I LOVED THE LOTR extended movies! I think I barely got to watch all of them last year. And it got me into The Middle Earth games. The shit they put out now though 🙄 I can't even speak on it.
As a woman, I honestly find it more insulting when writers make the women 'strong and flawless' and all of the men beta and pathetic, because to me it just looks like they're saying 'we can only make women look strong when they're standing next to a weak, totally useless man'.
@barry boucher Galadriel is NOT muscular and would probably struggle with a low level Orc in an arm wrestling contest. She isn't the MCU's "Red Guardian." She is deadly because of her endurance, dexterity, agility, close combat skills and ability to automatically dodge and counter oncoming attacks through muscle memory or instinct and do it gracefully without breaking a sweat or messing up her perfect hair. That is why she is a "#girlboss.
The part where Galadriel shouts "Elvish, mother****er, do you speak it?!" to Sauron and then yeeted him into the Death Star core led to a 20 minute standing ovation at the Cannes Film Festival.
No. At the time of the show Numenor is ruled by the "evil" Numenor faction that is highly jealous of the elves and actually the reason for Numenors downfall and final destruction. At least that's what the show wants to depict. Ofcourse they get all the details wrong 🙃
As a black person i love how most races have literrally one dark skinned character in the entire country Like did they sprout from the ground or something Humans-one PoC, Elves-one PoC, halflings-one PoC (one wait...none cause he died) Dwaves- one PoC. Guess Orcs don't get one cause people might think them racist.
what i find funny is that most white people like to complain about cultural appropriation sayig it doesn't exist and wE sHOulD SHaRe CulTurEs... Yet they literally stole the meaning of the term woke and are using it for financial gain. Like how many PoC (and i'm using this term to describe everyone non white) are actually wanting wokeness in the media?
Thats so white of them to make token black people. Woke white people dont want black people, they want dark skinned people for visuals. The difference being that black people must be minorities in every scenario they are in and must be culturally the same as white people. They don’t want to make BLACK CULTURES. Attack on titan had a good representation of a black culture not just black skin toned Integrated minorities. Makes sense when you consider that these writers are usually upper class whites who only ever interacted with rich minorities that occasionally pop into their social view.
The part where Galadriel quifs and looks at Sauron and goes "What?" Is so empowering... I feel that some of the male characters were still not weak and meek enough. Especially the white men.
Amidst all this praise it takes real courage to point out a flaw (that the male characters weren't weak and meek enough). Good criticism likes yours is important. Your non-binary partner must be so proud to be married to such a stunning and brave woman.
The scene where sauron units to domund and "manos unidas" and"red cross" and travel with his powers around the world healing the cancer its soo amazing and lovely...(snif)
We cant have a realistic story where women and children are hiding behind a castle wall anymore. Today we have women and children leading an ambush that wins because the enemy is weak and stupid. Great writing
The problem is that, in sieges, almost nobody stood still doing nothing. In Ancient, Medieval and Modern sieges often women and old people (basically who couldn't fight) helped the defenders carrying things around a like water, munitions, supplies, carrying the wounded etc... Anybody who could help, would help.
@OffSewingDragons And all the men would genuinely LOVE you for doing so. Facing battle, and probable death, is far easier if you know that the people you’re protecting are being given the best possible chance to survive. A woman getting the children away from danger would go a LONG way toward helping the fighters focus on their job and maintain morale, without constantly looking over their shoulder. Soldiers need to accept that they and their comrades might die. If loads of women and kids are fighting too, that mindset would be way harder to maintain, and they would be too likely to prioritize individual lives over victory. And defeat means EVERYONE dies. In the modern world, a woman with a gun can easily be as capable in combat as a man. But in a medieval world, this was far more rare. It was not disrespect or dismissal. It was love.
I would NOT be battling, as a young woman, i would be GRABBING THE YOUNGER PEOPLE AROUND ME AND RUNNING AWAY OR HIDING WITH AS MANY KIDS AS I COULD FIND
There are people who would be genuinely offended by women and children being protected, screaming that "they don't need protection." I wonder, when such people watched the battle of Helm's Deep: Did they HATE the boys and old men who were willing to die for their wives, mothers and sisters? Was it OFFENSIVE to imply that their families deserved to be protected from combat? Being protected means you are LOVED. It is not an insult. If someone DIES for you, and you are INSULTED, the problem is YOU.
A brilliant review because every review I have seen has mainly talked of (and deserved so)the betrayal to Tolkien's Lore some very y offended Tolkien fans but you critique it as the series it is and your totally right .
To be fair the studio only had the rights to the movies and the appendices of the Silmarillion so they couldn't really stick to Tolkein strictly speaking. But wow the showrunners really took a dumpster fire from the studio and just decided to napalm the whole junk yard.
To be fair, with how far they deviated from those alone, this could be an entirely new (and separate) IP, but instead they called it LOTR and disappointed everyone.
I know manipulation when I see it and the last movies I watched were Jackson's LORD OF THE RINGS and I stopped watching series when they screwed up Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. The captain was so bad that I was unable to watch it. The problem is they get people so worked up that they watch it to either criticize or praise it, then there's the mindless in-betweeners....either way they get you to watch so, they win either way because YOU DO watch it which is all they want. So, as long as you watch THEY DO WIN!!! I won't watch!!! Books are way more entertaining for me. I did watch half of the first episode of RINGS OF POWER and turned it off....it was just as expected a PUKE-FEST !!! I do find your reviews highly entertaining, thanks. Hats off for being able to stomach it....I know you have to watch it to review it and I appreciate it....better you than me, I don't have the intestinal fortitude. LOL
I never get emotional with any show or movie, but when Galadriel looked back at her army, smiled, and said, “For George Floyd” before charging, I actually shed a tear.
3 lightweights trying to add lore to the legendary works of a genius. It's almost criminal, because we've seen what the result is... An incoherent and unintelligent mess that is an insult to Tolkien, an insult to our intelligence and generally not entertaining. But what they did achieve is diversity and other woke checkboxes. A very expensive epic fail.
I am sharing this useful knowledge to everyone I know. This information must be heard. So future projects can avoid getting fckd and shit out so horrendously like this dumpster garbage on fire.
Although I looked at the series with a completely open mind, I think it's always a bad sign when the bad guy - in this case Adar - becomes your favourite character. Adar is in fact the opposite of Galadriel: not arrogant, a real leader, caring for his people, and he even gets the best dialogue lines of the series. He truly deserves my sympathy.
@2:45 = "Sauron who took command of Morgoth armies and then promptly disappeared" After Sauron took control of Morgoth's armies, he was defeated by Númenorians, at least he pretended to lose and surrendered to them, then became advisor to the king, and once the king was close to dying of old age, urged him to invade the Undying lands of Gods and take immortality by force, at which point Gods asked God Creator Eru to deal with this as they were prohibited directly dealing with men, so Eru destroyed Númenor and Sauron's indestructible form that wasn't even affected by lightning from Manwë the King of Arda (the universe lord of the ring is set in) and the leader of the Ainur (a race of godlike angels) But I guess he is talking that in the amazon tv series Sauron just disappeared after defeat of Morgoth, and the leader of the destruction of Númenor didn't happen I guess.
I think part of his point was, if we're gonna be given opening scenes to explain where we're at, they shouldn't give us a massive unanswered question. The show needs to make sense on its own, very few viewers will have read the Silmarillion.
When I heard the show was going to be made, I thought "Oh no..". We all knew what this would be. It's disgusting. I am a minority who LOVES Lord of the Rings! Who is this for?!?
I mean he's just obviously never read the pre-trilogy Tolkien works. half the things he's complaining about happen because Tolkien wrote it. 4:24, for instance. Galadriel WAS right after warning everyone; this is from unfinished tales and history of middle earth. dude obviously doesn't know much about lord of the rings and is just doing general bitching and complaining to get people riled up.
There is a lesson to take from this - and that's not to be "loyal" or beholden to a "franchise" so to speak. Everything is for-sale, artistic merit is up for grabs to those with the biggest pocketbook, which consists of fiat monopoly money anyway. It is up to individuals and groups to acknowledge quality works of art and entertainment (original LOTR, The Hobbit, Homeric epics, hell even more modern comic books) and abandon them when they stray from the core concepts that made them great. Enjoy the original Star Wars, or X-Men, or LOTR, or whatever, and ignore and don't even acknowledge when organizations bastardize them as they try to weaponize our own "loyalty" to the original works against us and even the works themselves.
Been thinking about this. Galadriel in ROP is simply not Galadriel in the fictional world of MiddleEarth from the source material which should have been respected by the custodians of the fictional character. This is true of all the other characters in the work. Don't buy a work of art (Painting or book), change it, and pretends it's the same thing the original artist made or faithful derivation of it that fans are unjustifiable angry with. It should be called Rings of Power not Lord of the Rings:Rings of Power as a distinct work of fiction/art for the title in my opinion.. The characters/world are basically different so neither is truelly better than the others but the work is objectivey worst as you say. ROP is basically a multiverse/alternative universe) operating under different rule of how the universe works. It takes a really long to get anyway in Tolkiens, so the racial diversity should be more game of thrones with most in the west being light skinned. Travel appears to works different than Amazon's work where it appears to not take as long to get anywhere or at least there was an ancient empire since ruined with a better road system/travel system or distances on the map are smaller in this world. Tolkein as viewer, artist I think would prefer a more faithful work of fiction to his work if you use "Lord of the Rings:" in title. Great points sir.
I gueses what i am says it's context. I want more diversity in DnD because teleport magic, airships, dimensional travel. I also think it's awesome to star wars in speed up travel time of hyperspeed which they appear to be doing for same. Both carry on noble aims. I wish they thought about this and many other issues more seriously while creating their fiction. The easiest fix to this make the breaking of the earth onto a globe from flat land at Numeror's fall also massively increased distances and also killing sauron by last alliance destroyed the last effective central authority, empires powerful enough to make good roads. Both those fixes seem plausible given speed of travel presented in show. Thus the presented 1st age , 2nd age of fast travel allows them to create the this world leads into the 3rd age of LOTR movies, book. Neither the 1st age maps, 3rd age map have scales on them so it's a plausible fix that reconcile the two works.
Rings of power reminds me a lot of the star wars sequel trilogy, where it begins witha director making a beloved trilogy, then another one that isnt as good, then the franchise gets taken over by a billion dollar company and trash like this gets produced
@Ceasar Saran The overwhelming majority of immigrants live in big cities, and the destruction of habitat is driven by sprawl, which is disproportionately middle class and upper middle class growth. This is basic recent American history 101, and the most hilarious thing is that the forces driving this make no bones about it - Americans like green grass in the desert, they like their private yards, they like a Burger King every 5 miles. And thus we get horizontal expansion with real estate and corporate entities raking in the profits…this isn’t driven by necessity, it’s driven by a predilection for luxurious living. That’s not about immigration. You need to get a clue.
@Ceasar Saran Just to be absolutely clear, yes, exactly. Industrialization meant the destruction not just of the traditional village, but of the old forests and green spaces. And he was explicitly against this. As for tying that to “migration”…I agree that Tolkien would likely have seen this as a cultural threat - and here, I think his bias clouded his judgment, but that is a different conversation- but your attempt to blame immigrants for the loss of forest land in the US is wildly off base. That is driven by development run rampant, strip malls, resource extraction, coal mining, suburban sprawl, big farming, and unfettered corporate greed. It’s like you have no concept of the forces that are actually at play in this country. This is a shockingly bad take.
@S Myers Not exactly. Tolkien was anti industrialization, and his highest respect was for small traditional English villages. And you are right, he would hate seeing the west with hugely increased population due to migration, which is causing destruction of the environment, and the loss of animal habitat. we have the same problem in the US, with our populations doubled since 1970, all du to immigration as well. Its causing the destruction of wilderness for housing.
The part where Galadriel looks at Sauron and says. "You and I have unfinished business." And Sauron looks back and says "Baby you ain't kidding." Oscar worthy scene in every scene.
The irony is that a woman wielding a great-sword and kicking the arses of literally any male organism ever doesn't reflect the world we live in today in the slightest. Truth is, the opposite is the case. But hey, you can depict anything however you want to in order to make yourself feel good. I could depict myself as a handsome person that everyone likes and who's worth anything to make myself feel good, but it would be delusional and the opposite of the case, and also, I'm male (I don't need to seek attention and validation about my flaws and make people bend over backwards to suit my narcissistic needs. Yes, I recognize that most women aren't like what we see from the vocal minority, but you know who makes up most of that annoying radical group of self-important babies?).
My dad is a diehard LOTR and Tolkien fan, he's the one who introduced me to this universe, and to see his expressions of literal physical pain while watching the show is honestly heart breaking, he had such high hopes for it
That's a shame. I would have told him not to watch glorified fanfiction (although good fanfiction does exist) if it was me. I loved the books, but had zero interest in this show, because I knew they didn't have the proper rights to make a canon (or close to canon) story.
The writers of this show clearly don't understand why female characters like Eowyn from the original trilogy are so fantastic. Take her part in the Battle of Pellennor Fields. She's heroic there not because she's strong and assertive and leading the way. Rather, she's heroic because she stands up and fights for what she loves *in spite of* being deathly terrified to fight (especially when fighting the Witch King) and being far weaker than all of the other Rohirrim. That's what makes her relatable and inspiring.
@Caitlyn Livingston it’s inspiring because she stood up for what she believed was right even despite the expectations given to her AND the fact that she was up against the Witch King Aka a wraith who cannot be harmed by any worldly or non magical means (and if “killed” can Reform at Minas Morgul) and has the assurance of a prophecy that he cannot be killed by any man He was only vanquished as Mary had stabbed him with an enchanted blade that got rid of his magical defenses, an anti Nazgūl blade, and was struck then by Eowyn at that perfect moment Nazgūl also has poisonous breath and a presence of fear- as in you feel absolute dread whenever you are around them Any one who isn’t a Maia or beyond is weak in comparison to a Nazgūl which is why Eowyn and Mary’s bravery against the Witch King, the leader of the nazgūl, is inspiring
When my wife and I started dating, I had the pleasure of introducing her to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. It was great because I don't even think she quite understood the allegorical structure of the films, and I got someone new to open up to Tolkien. We later watched the Hobbit trilogy and were both a bit disappointed, to say the least. Well, years later, this series comes out. Since she's a "she" and works around a bunch of other women, of course she wanted to watch this new series. However, she didn't realize exactly what this show was. From the first episode, she fell asleep almost immediately. It's played on our TV for a while (usually while I'm elsewhere) as background noise to which people can fall asleep. I gave it an honest chance to see what it was about. Man, I don't think I've ever seen as big of a piece of shit, even after opening septic systems. Nothing made sense about the characters, events, or even the damned plot. I genuinely didn't even realize that it had anything to do with the original LOTR story or characters because it was so stupidly written that it's almost like a totally disjointed retelling of a retelling of a retard's coloring book.
The biggest insult about the quote, "it felt natural to us that the script should reflect the world we live in today," is that Tolkien was a veteran of the hellish trenches of WWI. The world he lived in was bleak, industrial, cruel, and deadly. The story and world he made was about the good in people burning brightly against the darkness that threatens to extinguish it. It is where noble souls struggle against impossible odds and, through the triumph of valor, selflessness, and comraderie, push the darkness that threatens the world back. It ultimately does not defeat darkness forever, but we get this beautiful view into a world that could be. Middle earth was never a reflection of the "modern world" but rather an escape from it.
This program lost me when it showed Galadriel swimming oh, I don't know, 53 miles through the open ocean all the while wearing a flimsy dress that would have sunk her in a matter of minutes. No more thank you. The so-called "lead actress" makes one remember Dorothy Parker's comment on Katherine Hepburn: "she runs the emotional gamut from A to B". Not to mention that Galadriel in LOTR is an elvish sorceress, not a battlefield commander. This hardly pointed the way to LOTR;; in fact it just points nowhere, and there is no reason to watch it at all. I don't care about "racial inclusivity" or any such nonsense; I want characters I can believe with directing and production values that make it watchable as a whole. This program delivers nothing like that; it's a total waste of time and energy
The part where Diverse Queen lady of Numenor, single handedly gets rid of all the 300 orphans by sending them to the South Lands with dime store Galadrial, and obviously-Sauron. That was top quality writing, illustrating the writers desire to tell the world that orphans don't matter.
The bit where Galadriel turns around, takes off her helmet and says "My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, general of the Felix Legion, commander of the armies of the North, loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius, father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife, and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next," made me turn off RoP and go and watch better things from 20 years ago.
The part where Sauron said 'this is the day you will always remember as the day you almost caught Captain Sauron' when Guyladriel was drowning was emotional and brave.
The opening thesis is about how expectations can shape our opinion of a movie. Very, very true. My favorite movies have often been little indie features that are not objectively great- but they soared above my expectations. On the other hand, have slagged on movies which were not that bad- but disappointed my expectations. (watch them later, with a clear head, and I can start to like them again.)
Wow, six episodes. I tapped out like ten minutes into episode three. Tolkien has a boatload fo other work out there but it is largely unfinished or at least unconnected. They seem more like literary exercises than serious story telling. Point being these hacks can point to other Tolkien work as source material but they've still screwed the pooch. It's purely a money grab by untalented people trying to bleed a couple more bucks from a great work. And for this they cancelled "The Expanse"> Peace.
The second Galadriel said 'No, we keep moving' despite potentially leaving one of her own to die, made me realise this character isn't a commander of an army, nor is good at pretending to be one. Considering this happens in the first ten minutes of the first episode, it doesn't leave me feeling confident in her decision-making later on. Lo and behold, the show actually justified my feelings on that multiple times. She is extremely unlikeable, but as you said, the fact she's female means she gets away with being callous, uncaring, rude, and extremely bad in diplomatic situations. She acts more like a tyrant than a hero.
Loved the moment when galadriel got out of her plastic chair and started singing "I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING". Truly one of the moments of the show.
I have a feeling that most film critics have jumped on an wagon (most likely originating in America, with the extreme Trumpist views), that have gotten such a speed and unstoppable force, that no person with respect for him/her-self (did you see what I just wrote?) can survive saying anything else then totally flushing the whole show down the toilet. I'm trying to be objective, and I agree: Especially for the price of 1B US$, it's seriously not good enough. However there's some extremely nice scenes from far away. The problem seem to come when the show zoom into the individual characters. I'm not sure what happened, but I feel that all possibilities to be really HONEST and OBJECTIVE with this show have totally vanished, because of some cheap, cynical, low-brow political points. People have become too heavily enraged by silly things like dark-skinned elves, dwarfs and hobbits and a scare of militant feminism taking over society, for anyone to be rational about it. To say it more simple: The whole show have degraded into an element of modern, political, far right-wing politics, and there's too much aggression built up against it to have any serious, calm, rational and neutral reflections about it that will ever be heard.
@Sid New Another thought on this, With all the actors from theathre, maybe it would make more sense to go full big budget theathre with this one. The selling point being it's a big budget theatherical production not a realistic tv show. In theather anyone can play anyone, Don Quixote in La Mancha just needs to sing well. You don't have to worry about events taking place miles away or years away over hundreds of years in threatre which works with this story. A narrator would probably help with the newbies to tolkien and a grandesique story. More music for fun like the Orcs they are trying to humanize more singing "Where there's a whip there's a way" like the 70s cartoon. It could work and allow for more diversity in hiring and be a blast versus the mess we got. Anyways Merry Christmas to you. Hopefully the Ukraine doesn't make the winter to rough for Europe this winter. :)
Dude, I am from Germany and definitely more on the left side, but all his points are credible. It's not the diversity per se, of course not, it's the poor way of execution. And it IS a problem when you put modern, empowered women everywhere in middle-earth. There is a good way of being "woke" (you know, the good meaning of the word) - look at HotD or The Boys as an example. But shoving it down your throat wether it fits or not is always a good way to alienate even the most progressive viewers.
@Elvenkind thanks. I thought about it some more. The breaking of MiddleEarth at Numeror's fall into a globe from flatland also increased distances. It allows them to reconcile the two works 😀.
hollywood in my opinion is just a complete joke to me, they rarely make any good films, and I just view them as the comedic film company because its so funny to watch them mess up every narrative im kinda glad tolkien died early now because if he had lived to see what had become of his series and what became of storytelling as a whole he would of probably had his soul crushed completely
I like the part where Sauron was about to hit that guy with his sword, but then Galadriel came up behind him and said, "Hey Sauron!" Then Sauron slowly turned around, and Galadiel said, "Saur on this!" and blew him away with a shotgun.
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I cried like a baby when Sauron says "I am a man" and then Galadriel says "and I am all the genders".
You cant even tell if this a joke nowadays lol
Lol, i was waiting for this to be talked about, what has the world become. Good news is we all about to be nuked because they think Russia’s nukes don’t work. Hey Mike Tyson is in his 50’s i bet he doesn’t have knockout power anymore, Let’s gooooo
haven't seen it so i legitimately can't tell if this is a joke or not
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Lmao that made me choke
As a woman I hate the fact that being a strong woman in modern media very often means having no compassion, understanding, pity, love towards anybody. The "strong woman" in modern media often wields a sword (or a gun), punches harder than a man twice her size, is smug, arrogant, short sited and antagonizes those around her. But for some reason these characteristics are portrayed as something desirable. I wish that Hollywood would remember that strength and compassion are not mutually exclusive and weak men don't automatically make the female characters look good. With this modern storytelling everybody loses.
Also, I hate the fact that elves in this don't sound like elves, hobbits don't sounds like hobbits...everybody sounds the same, everybody acts the same...at least in episode 1, stopped watching it after that.
@SerenaHahn I am not. As I said, I want well-written characters, regardless of their gender. The show doesn't reflect Tolkien's Middle Earth because the writing on the show is not exactly great.
@E I thought 90% of Men being idiots (and 10% being hot) standing next to Galadriel just reflected the middle Earth they lived in that age. Sorry for calling you a fundamentalist, but sometimes you suspiciously sound like one
@SerenaHahn I am not a fundamentalist. I just think that making men look like idiots just so the female character can be a badass is bad writing. I like characters who are engaging and interesting because they are well written, regardless of their gender.
@E Sauron is one of the main characters and a role with more screen time and I imagine more pay than isildur. So let's call it what it is, Charlie Vickers would probably fire his agent if he were cast as Isildur instead of Sauron. Amazon didn't even tell him he was Sauron when they filmed episode 1. Look up #haladriel and you can see that "nobody wants Galadriel to be with Sauron" really only means you and your fundamentalist friends dont want Galadriel to be with one of the few people who she doesn't have to deal with their fragile egos (uh, like most MEN)
@Daniel Goh I think that a character can be strong in more than one way. Beth Harmon is really good at what she does and eventually defeats her demons without punching people left and right. Molly Gibson from "Wives and Daughters" while being kind, shy, and too selfless at time, has wits and a moral compass that Cynthia is lacking. The Marquis in "Neverwhere" is smart, cunning, resourceful. There are lots and lots of characters in media and literature that are strong, compelling and relatable and they don't need to throw a punch to be so. I am not saying that a badass warrior princess kind of character cannot be fun, I just think that Galadriel should not be portrayed as one, because her character in the books is not about that.
I wish that some writers in Hollywood would write their characters as people, first and foremost. But the modern storytelling in many cases reduces women to angry badasses and men to idiots who either cannot tie their shoelaces or are trying to undermine the strong female characters for no other reason but because they are men. I can see the appeal of this kind of writing but for me it makes characters very one-note. I said that those negative character traits are portrayed as desirable because they are often displayed by the main character, the one that we are supposed to be rooting for and they are not written as flaws that the main character needs to overcome. I don't know what the future holds for Galadriel in this show, but for a main character she is tedious to watch.
The writers of the show: The show should reflect the world around us.
Tolkien: I don't like allegories and I stay away from them at all cost.
@TheBlueArmageddon Galadriel was never at the front lines, how in the fuck was it similar?
@Manly Manuel Some of the writing is really bad. Like Isildur's sister getting her Yale acceptance lett...I mean guild acceptance letter, a rock-smashing contest, Sauron fist-fighting some blacksmiths! Characters are using words like "project" and "partner", I suspect the Thesaurus was outlawed on set. It is a very pretty-looking show, but for me it's style over substance.
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Bro save your self from the horror that is this show. I've had it on my phone for a month now, and it's so fucking boring that it literally feels like a chore to get through an episode.
@TheBlueArmageddon the Silmarilion doesn't take place in the 2nd age tho I'm pretty sure, it ends very soon after the defeat of Morgoth
@TheBlueArmageddon I am not that bothered by the lack of beards. I know that some people are, but I believe that the show has bigger issues. Like the writing.
The part where Frodo looked into Galadrial's mirror and saw "the world we live in today" was epic.
Probably looked something like this.
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We live in a society...
I can guess poor Frodo's reaction
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The part where Sauron acknowledges his privilege and agrees to reduce his carbon emissions by using the ring of wind power was a beautiful redemption arc
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The part where Sauron yelled "For the patriarchy!!" was so triggering and really cemented him as the villain.
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"The rings of power by contrast is a cheap,clumsy, derivative copy commissioned by a company that thinks it can BUY its way into cultural relevance." That's so true. You cannot BUY that.
And they can't even *afford* to. Look what company just fired 20,000 people to pay for this trash.
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The part where I didn't need to watch the rings of power to know how bad it was was the best.
@Lauri It might not be the absolute worst, and anyone who manages to enjoy it is fully entitled to that opinion. But most of the hate aimed at this show is due to the MOTIVES of its creators. These people absolutely have no interest in upholding the source material or respecting the fans. And if that’s how they feel about us, most of us feel no obligation to be merciful. A close friend enjoyed the show, and that’s ok. But I am not inclined to support creators who think they know far better than Tolkien about how to craft a world and a story. Especially when these people preemptively attacked the fans before we ever had a chance to form any opinions. They chose to make this personal, and the fans are entitled to fight back.
Honestly it's not as bad as everyone says. Everyone just made up their mind without even watching it or had their mind made before even watching it
Yes! The Pitch Meeting episode also does an excellent and hilarious job of saving us from the pain, rage, and anguish of watching the actual show.
I tried to 'hate watch' it and found it too boring to get through!
too right... sadly i tried to watch a couple of episodes... they were so bad i was truly impressed - i couldn't even watch a whole episode and fast forwarded to find something worth watching ..
i avoided watching any of the reviews saying it's bad so i could make up my own mind... sheesh... was so obviously impossible to watch a a tolkein fan....
I love part where Galadriel used her rainbow lightsabre to blow up the corporate patriarchy, I mean death star, and forced Sauron to milk the space giraffe for blue tittie milk as she correctly respected all of the ewoks pronouns while telling Darth Vader how problematic he was for not having gender reassignment surgery after he was nearly burned to death
You do realize that the person with the IP rights to Star Wars calls them "laser swords" not "light sabres," right? You Lucas the "maverick genius" sold out, right?
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The part where Sauron ordered his new elven rings and got free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime, I jumped from my seat and applauded
Who needs Amazon Prime when you have Pirate Bay and uTorrent
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😂 that was actually in the finale
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In the original book "The Silmarilion" Galadriel is just a passenger who travel from Valinor to the middle earth.
In the other hand we have Gil Galad, Hurin, Melian and the valad of Beren, that are really great parts of the book (if we don't count Melkor).
@Josué Ortega let's hope it stays there for at least another decade or three. I've waited for a Silmarillion adaptation since I was a kid. Now it seems like this one dream should stay just that.
@Josué Ortega And they couldn't even do that competently.
I think there is some sort of legal block over the Silmarillion proper, that's why the TV series is loosely based on the Akallabêth (the fall of Númenor) instead
And let's not forget that Galadriel was banned from returning to Valinor because of her lust for power after the ruin of Beleriand. It wasn't until she resisted the temptation to take the one ring that she redeemed herself and was allowed to go home.
What they wanted was Eowyn!
The part where Galadriel says "im an expert at controling my anger BECAUSE I DO IT INFINITLY MORE THAN YOU" to Sauron is a masterpiece
@Caitlyn Livingston Tell me you skipped English class without telling me you skipped English class.
@Caitlyn Livingston You actually seem encumbered by daddy issues.
@Caitlyn Livingston weird way to let everyone know that you're taste in movie and televised entertainment is atrocious.
@Caitlyn Livingston that’s a weird way to say ”I have no taste or class.”
@Caitlyn Livingston You just picked something off a list you thought would be insulting and said it, didn't you?
The part where Sauron justifies cutting down trees by saying he and his orcs are vegan, made me question who are the baddies.
Truly inspirational and brave
You do know realize who the anti environmentalist, tree hating, capitalistic, slave driving Orcs are supposed to represent, don't you?
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The part where Amazon said "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message" as it lit a massive money mountain of $1 billion on fire was the most shocking thing I ever witnessed.
@Dinesh Bezos has been strong-arming millions of product creators for nickels and dimes for decades. Idk wtf you're talking about. He sure as shit cares about $1 billion.
I mean, have you ever seen an Amazon warehouse? They monitor every employee at every second for maximum productivity. The dude squeezes every cent out of every inch of his business.
"THE MESSAGE"
@Mackie Messer it was that scene actually
@Robert Monroe That one was actually from the dark knight
@Dinesh even more shocking is you thinking billionaires got to where they are by not minding $1bi failures. Sure, it's not like Beezos is going broke, but if you think he won't act on that loss, or that he doesn't care, think again.
All I remembered is "The show has to reflect the world we live in today"
@Perry Mason "You apparently know nothing of the Professor, his worldview, his sense of life, his influences and his experiences. And obviously nothing of his actual words."
OK, "perrymason" named after a Boomer TV star, academics far more educated on Tolkein than me have described the gender roles and ethnic coding with a preference towards eugenics in Tolkien's writing. I'm not going to debate you on that point; you can discus that with them.
" Virtue? Salvation?"
we are talking about a streaming entertainment show that most people just play in the background on their phones while running on a treadmill.. No need to put religion into it.
"looking for genuine human connection but where you will find none."
Thank you but I must decline your thirsty Post. You sound like an "elder Millenial" just barely missing the Xer mark. I can be your chat buddy, nothing more.
@SerenaHahn Um, what? First, no, whatever your take that term to mean. Second, you completely ignored my points. Are you frightened to give them serious consideration? It's time to get serious Serena. Time to adult and treat others with respect and have a heavy dose of humility, without making up garbage from your high school teacher's ideological talking points. Or CNN's. And I'm not in Generation X. I'm a millennial. "Do better" :)
@Perry Mason "Virtue? Salvation?" So I take it you are, no offense, a fundamentalist? Ok Xer.
@Scurvy McGruff that's called audiences responding to "the world we live in today." So Explain why the diverse cast of FF9 destroyed box office returns of the white revenge fantasy, "The Northman" despite its the top tier academy award nominee/winning White-Only cast?
@SerenaHahn You're clearly too obsessed with the color of peoples skin. You're making completey ridiculous comparisons and implying that people go to see movies based on the skin color of the cast alone. That's called racism.
Rings of Prime makes "The Hobbit" with all it's flaws look like a masterpiece.
The Hobbit films are actually entertaining
they only look bad if you compared it to Lotr trilogy
@Vaszty Vault have you been playing shadow of war? Great game.
@Joxar For me it's like the start wars prequels. It was my introduction into the franchise. I LOVED THE LOTR extended movies! I think I barely got to watch all of them last year. And it got me into The Middle Earth games. The shit they put out now though 🙄 I can't even speak on it.
For me, "Rings of Prime" immediately conjured up a circle of anuses squeezing out this show.
@Pedro Vargas hobbit films definitely don't come close to lotr
The part where Sauron tells her the dark side has great benefits and retirement plan
The part where Galadriel grabbed her bulge and yelled "Deez nuts!" at Sauron was stunning and brave. I'm literally shaking rn.
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hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thanks for the laugh
She normalized the bulge. Stunning and brave....
Normalize the bulge!
As a woman, I honestly find it more insulting when writers make the women 'strong and flawless' and all of the men beta and pathetic, because to me it just looks like they're saying 'we can only make women look strong when they're standing next to a weak, totally useless man'.
@barry boucher Galadriel is NOT muscular and would probably struggle with a low level Orc in an arm wrestling contest. She isn't the MCU's "Red Guardian." She is deadly because of her endurance, dexterity, agility, close combat skills and ability to automatically dodge and counter oncoming attacks through muscle memory or instinct and do it gracefully without breaking a sweat or messing up her perfect hair. That is why she is a "#girlboss.
@Stephen Tucker Galadriel is not a human woman, but elf royalty. She is "wonder woman" without super strength (so can't headbutt Superman)
@ywoisuG do you work for a certain paper company?
How tf is Galadriel flawless? sre you insane?
@SerenaHahn Ok then.
The part where Galadriel shouts "Elvish, mother****er, do you speak it?!" to Sauron and then yeeted him into the Death Star core led to a 20 minute standing ovation at the Cannes Film Festival.
the ghost of frodo saying use he force luke (i mean guyladriel) had me shaking.... tolkein is back!!! wow....
Funny thing is that in the books the humans the Elves had the best relationship with were the Numenoreans.
@Seidenzopf the elves are going to take er' jibbs!
No. At the time of the show Numenor is ruled by the "evil" Numenor faction that is highly jealous of the elves and actually the reason for Numenors downfall and final destruction. At least that's what the show wants to depict. Ofcourse they get all the details wrong 🙃
This is what happens when you don't let your screenwriters take bathroom breaks
Yes the problem here is lack of liberal politics at the workplace
As a black person i love how most races have literrally one dark skinned character in the entire country
Like did they sprout from the ground or something Humans-one PoC, Elves-one PoC, halflings-one PoC (one wait...none cause he died) Dwaves- one PoC. Guess Orcs don't get one cause people might think them racist.
what i find funny is that most white people like to complain about cultural appropriation sayig it doesn't exist and wE sHOulD SHaRe CulTurEs...
Yet they literally stole the meaning of the term woke and are using it for financial gain.
Like how many PoC (and i'm using this term to describe everyone non white) are actually wanting wokeness in the media?
Thats so white of them to make token black people. Woke white people dont want black people, they want dark skinned people for visuals. The difference being that black people must be minorities in every scenario they are in and must be culturally the same as white people. They don’t want to make BLACK CULTURES. Attack on titan had a good representation of a black culture not just black skin toned Integrated minorities.
Makes sense when you consider that these writers are usually upper class whites who only ever interacted with rich minorities that occasionally pop into their social view.
The part where the Witch King said "No non-birthing person can kill me" was immaculate.
helloo i did a review too about lotr the rings of power :)
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it was groundbreaking and revolutionary.
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The part where Galadriel quifs and looks at Sauron and goes "What?" Is so empowering... I feel that some of the male characters were still not weak and meek enough. Especially the white men.
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@Keldor D'Antrell thank you brother or sister. My wife is so proud she let me know she would think of me as her boyfriend plows her tonight.
Amidst all this praise it takes real courage to point out a flaw (that the male characters weren't weak and meek enough). Good criticism likes yours is important. Your non-binary partner must be so proud to be married to such a stunning and brave woman.
@Caitlyn Livingston you say that but my wife's boyfriend gave me access to her onlyfans after I posted this so...
Well you posted. So probly hit the mark
The scene where sauron units to domund and "manos unidas" and"red cross" and travel with his powers around the world healing the cancer its soo amazing and lovely...(snif)
We cant have a realistic story where women and children are hiding behind a castle wall anymore. Today we have women and children leading an ambush that wins because the enemy is weak and stupid. Great writing
The problem is that, in sieges, almost nobody stood still doing nothing. In Ancient, Medieval and Modern sieges often women and old people (basically who couldn't fight) helped the defenders carrying things around a like water, munitions, supplies, carrying the wounded etc... Anybody who could help, would help.
@Will Dreamer As the saying goes: There aren't may Feminists as a cruise ship is sinking.
@OffSewingDragons And all the men would genuinely LOVE you for doing so. Facing battle, and probable death, is far easier if you know that the people you’re protecting are being given the best possible chance to survive. A woman getting the children away from danger would go a LONG way toward helping the fighters focus on their job and maintain morale, without constantly looking over their shoulder. Soldiers need to accept that they and their comrades might die. If loads of women and kids are fighting too, that mindset would be way harder to maintain, and they would be too likely to prioritize individual lives over victory. And defeat means EVERYONE dies. In the modern world, a woman with a gun can easily be as capable in combat as a man. But in a medieval world, this was far more rare. It was not disrespect or dismissal. It was love.
I would NOT be battling, as a young woman, i would be GRABBING THE YOUNGER PEOPLE AROUND ME AND RUNNING AWAY OR HIDING WITH AS MANY KIDS AS I COULD FIND
There are people who would be genuinely offended by women and children being protected, screaming that "they don't need protection." I wonder, when such people watched the battle of Helm's Deep: Did they HATE the boys and old men who were willing to die for their wives, mothers and sisters? Was it OFFENSIVE to imply that their families deserved to be protected from combat? Being protected means you are LOVED. It is not an insult. If someone DIES for you, and you are INSULTED, the problem is YOU.
A brilliant review because every review I have seen has mainly talked of (and deserved so)the betrayal to Tolkien's Lore some very y offended Tolkien fans but you critique it as the series it is and your totally right .
I loved the part where the Dark Lord Bezos wasted a billion dollars. So stunning. So brave.
I'm gonna celebrate every single Penny Bezos lost.
But the show was damn popular, despite being a pile of shit.
Luckily for him, losing a billion dollars for the CEO of Amazon is like losing some loose change from your pocket in the couch for the average person.
The sad thing is, it only represents about a fortnight's worth of Amazon profit. Pocket change for him.
Definitely not a billion dollars. You peasants are easy to fool
The part where Galadriel shouts “This is Sparta” before kicking that guy under the cliff was a real blow to patriarchy
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To be fair the studio only had the rights to the movies and the appendices of the Silmarillion so they couldn't really stick to Tolkein strictly speaking. But wow the showrunners really took a dumpster fire from the studio and just decided to napalm the whole junk yard.
@Daemon Lord Magnus the Red You aren't wrong.
To be fair, with how far they deviated from those alone, this could be an entirely new (and separate) IP, but instead they called it LOTR and disappointed everyone.
I know manipulation when I see it and the last movies I watched were Jackson's LORD OF THE RINGS and I stopped watching series when they screwed up Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. The captain was so bad that I was unable to watch it. The problem is they get people so worked up that they watch it to either criticize or praise it, then there's the mindless in-betweeners....either way they get you to watch so, they win either way because YOU DO watch it which is all they want. So, as long as you watch THEY DO WIN!!! I won't watch!!! Books are way more entertaining for me. I did watch half of the first episode of RINGS OF POWER and turned it off....it was just as expected a PUKE-FEST !!! I do find your reviews highly entertaining, thanks. Hats off for being able to stomach it....I know you have to watch it to review it and I appreciate it....better you than me, I don't have the intestinal fortitude. LOL
The part where Sauron said “No Galadriel, I am your father” shook me to my core. An insane twist that no one expected
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I never get emotional with any show or movie, but when Galadriel looked back at her army, smiled, and said, “For George Floyd” before charging, I actually shed a tear.
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@Di :3 oh you care about women. Just not this woman.
"For Adolf"
@E MP dumb as the ones that imagine seeing things that never happened 😂
@Di :3 How dumb do you have to be to have video evidence of murder and still disbelieve them lol
"Because this has to reflect the world we live in today" will be my response to pretty much any "Why?" question in life.
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3 lightweights trying to add lore to the legendary works of a genius. It's almost criminal, because we've seen what the result is... An incoherent and unintelligent mess that is an insult to Tolkien, an insult to our intelligence and generally not entertaining. But what they did achieve is diversity and other woke checkboxes. A very expensive epic fail.
The part where Galadriel tells Sauron she's a strong independent woman and doesn't need a dark lord was life changing.
The part where Galadriel said “Jesse, we are breaking bad” to Walt was spectacular
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holy fuck i never noticed the "army" they sent. Id like to see a 110 pound girl in a medieval infantry charge and see how long she lasts.
I loved the season finale where Sauron claims all elf women will perish, then Galadriel replies she is gender nonconforming.
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When Galadriel slays the troll in 20 seconds and shouted "Are you not entertained!?" I felt that. So empowering!
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The scene where Galadriel twerks in front of Sauron to show how empowered she is was truly inspirational.
Women writing women.
I don’t know, that’s a close tie to the moment when Isildore shed a tear as he checked his privilege in front of Galadriel, truly a beautiful moment.
And then Cardi B as an elf appears and dance with her, showing us that no matter what happens, female empowerment and twerking always go hand to hand.
No wonder why Sauron almost won all in the end
He had no real opponents before Lord Of the RIngs timeline happened
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Although I looked at the series with a completely open mind, I think it's always a bad sign when the bad guy - in this case Adar - becomes your favourite character.
Adar is in fact the opposite of Galadriel: not arrogant, a real leader, caring for his people, and he even gets the best dialogue lines of the series. He truly deserves my sympathy.
The part where Galadriel declares “ I am no man” before vanquishing James Bond… Poetry of our time.
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@2:45 = "Sauron who took command of Morgoth armies and then promptly disappeared" After Sauron took control of Morgoth's armies, he was defeated by Númenorians, at least he pretended to lose and surrendered to them, then became advisor to the king, and once the king was close to dying of old age, urged him to invade the Undying lands of Gods and take immortality by force, at which point Gods asked God Creator Eru to deal with this as they were prohibited directly dealing with men, so Eru destroyed Númenor and Sauron's indestructible form that wasn't even affected by lightning from Manwë the King of Arda (the universe lord of the ring is set in) and the leader of the Ainur (a race of godlike angels)
But I guess he is talking that in the amazon tv series Sauron just disappeared after defeat of Morgoth, and the leader of the destruction of Númenor didn't happen I guess.
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I think part of his point was, if we're gonna be given opening scenes to explain where we're at, they shouldn't give us a massive unanswered question. The show needs to make sense on its own, very few viewers will have read the Silmarillion.
The island is actually pronounced as "New Manure"
This is easily one of the Drinker's best videos to date. It's absolutely disgraceful how badly Amazon has mishandled Tolkien's incredible works.
When I heard the show was going to be made, I thought "Oh no..". We all knew what this would be. It's disgusting. I am a minority who LOVES Lord of the Rings! Who is this for?!?
helloo i did a review too, about the rings of power :)
I mean he's just obviously never read the pre-trilogy Tolkien works. half the things he's complaining about happen because Tolkien wrote it. 4:24, for instance. Galadriel WAS right after warning everyone; this is from unfinished tales and history of middle earth.
dude obviously doesn't know much about lord of the rings and is just doing general bitching and complaining to get people riled up.
There is a lesson to take from this - and that's not to be "loyal" or beholden to a "franchise" so to speak. Everything is for-sale, artistic merit is up for grabs to those with the biggest pocketbook, which consists of fiat monopoly money anyway. It is up to individuals and groups to acknowledge quality works of art and entertainment (original LOTR, The Hobbit, Homeric epics, hell even more modern comic books) and abandon them when they stray from the core concepts that made them great. Enjoy the original Star Wars, or X-Men, or LOTR, or whatever, and ignore and don't even acknowledge when organizations bastardize them as they try to weaponize our own "loyalty" to the original works against us and even the works themselves.
Well ya see life is more than television and neomarxism, most people figure that out earlier on.
Been thinking about this. Galadriel in ROP is simply not Galadriel in the fictional world of MiddleEarth from the source material which should have been respected by the custodians of the fictional character. This is true of all the other characters in the work. Don't buy a work of art (Painting or book), change it, and pretends it's the same thing the original artist made or faithful derivation of it that fans are unjustifiable angry with. It should be called Rings of Power not Lord of the Rings:Rings of Power as a distinct work of fiction/art for the title in my opinion.. The characters/world are basically different so neither is truelly better than the others but the work is objectivey worst as you say. ROP is basically a multiverse/alternative universe) operating under different rule of how the universe works. It takes a really long to get anyway in Tolkiens, so the racial diversity should be more game of thrones with most in the west being light skinned. Travel appears to works different than Amazon's work where it appears to not take as long to get anywhere or at least there was an ancient empire since ruined with a better road system/travel system or distances on the map are smaller in this world. Tolkein as viewer, artist I think would prefer a more faithful work of fiction to his work if you use "Lord of the Rings:" in title. Great points sir.
I gueses what i am says it's context. I want more diversity in DnD because teleport magic, airships, dimensional travel. I also think it's awesome to star wars in speed up travel time of hyperspeed which they appear to be doing for same. Both carry on noble aims. I wish they thought about this and many other issues more seriously while creating their fiction. The easiest fix to this make the breaking of the earth onto a globe from flat land at Numeror's fall also massively increased distances and also killing sauron by last alliance destroyed the last effective central authority, empires powerful enough to make good roads. Both those fixes seem plausible given speed of travel presented in show. Thus the presented 1st age , 2nd age of fast travel allows them to create the this world leads into the 3rd age of LOTR movies, book. Neither the 1st age maps, 3rd age map have scales on them so it's a plausible fix that reconcile the two works.
Rings of power reminds me a lot of the star wars sequel trilogy, where it begins witha director making a beloved trilogy, then another one that isnt as good, then the franchise gets taken over by a billion dollar company and trash like this gets produced
The part where I read this comment section is the best part of the whole series...
Making every nation and town look like 2022 New York completely ruins immersion.
The part where sauron agrees to stop deforestation around mordor to reduce his armies carbon footprint was stunning.
@Ceasar Saran The overwhelming majority of immigrants live in big cities, and the destruction of habitat is driven by sprawl, which is disproportionately middle class and upper middle class growth. This is basic recent American history 101, and the most hilarious thing is that the forces driving this make no bones about it - Americans like green grass in the desert, they like their private yards, they like a Burger King every 5 miles. And thus we get horizontal expansion with real estate and corporate entities raking in the profits…this isn’t driven by necessity, it’s driven by a predilection for luxurious living. That’s not about immigration. You need to get a clue.
@Ceasar Saran Just to be absolutely clear, yes, exactly. Industrialization meant the destruction not just of the traditional village, but of the old forests and green spaces. And he was explicitly against this. As for tying that to “migration”…I agree that Tolkien would likely have seen this as a cultural threat - and here, I think his bias clouded his judgment, but that is a different conversation- but your attempt to blame immigrants for the loss of forest land in the US is wildly off base. That is driven by development run rampant, strip malls, resource extraction, coal mining, suburban sprawl, big farming, and unfettered corporate greed. It’s like you have no concept of the forces that are actually at play in this country. This is a shockingly bad take.
@S Myers Not exactly. Tolkien was anti industrialization, and his highest respect was for small traditional English villages. And you are right, he would hate seeing the west with hugely increased population due to migration, which is causing destruction of the environment, and the loss of animal habitat. we have the same problem in the US, with our populations doubled since 1970, all du to immigration as well. Its causing the destruction of wilderness for housing.
Funny you should mention that, as Tolkien was an environmentalist at heart, and LOTR was explicitly anti-industrialization.
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The part where Galadriel screams "it's morbin time" and charges at Sauron was so powerful. Brought me to tears.
The part where Galadriel looks at Sauron and says. "You and I have unfinished business." And Sauron looks back and says "Baby you ain't kidding." Oscar worthy scene in every scene.
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The part where Sauron tells Galadriel " I'm your huckleberry" gave me the chills.
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The irony is that a woman wielding a great-sword and kicking the arses of literally any male organism ever doesn't reflect the world we live in today in the slightest. Truth is, the opposite is the case. But hey, you can depict anything however you want to in order to make yourself feel good. I could depict myself as a handsome person that everyone likes and who's worth anything to make myself feel good, but it would be delusional and the opposite of the case, and also, I'm male (I don't need to seek attention and validation about my flaws and make people bend over backwards to suit my narcissistic needs. Yes, I recognize that most women aren't like what we see from the vocal minority, but you know who makes up most of that annoying radical group of self-important babies?).
My dad is a diehard LOTR and Tolkien fan, he's the one who introduced me to this universe, and to see his expressions of literal physical pain while watching the show is honestly heart breaking, he had such high hopes for it
@Caitlyn Livingston I love the Silmilrilian too~! Finrod's story arc was my favorite lol. I loved that elf.
That's a shame. I would have told him not to watch glorified fanfiction (although good fanfiction does exist) if it was me. I loved the books, but had zero interest in this show, because I knew they didn't have the proper rights to make a canon (or close to canon) story.
Crazy he's a Silmarillion die hard. What's his favorite part?
The shit is real with this series.
You cant look at this as anything other then a parody, and a bad one at that. Im so sorry your dad had his hopes up.
The writers of this show clearly don't understand why female characters like Eowyn from the original trilogy are so fantastic. Take her part in the Battle of Pellennor Fields. She's heroic there not because she's strong and assertive and leading the way. Rather, she's heroic because she stands up and fights for what she loves *in spite of* being deathly terrified to fight (especially when fighting the Witch King) and being far weaker than all of the other Rohirrim. That's what makes her relatable and inspiring.
@Caitlyn Livingston it’s inspiring because she stood up for what she believed was right even despite the expectations given to her AND the fact that she was up against the Witch King
Aka a wraith who cannot be harmed by any worldly or non magical means (and if “killed” can Reform at Minas Morgul) and has the assurance of a prophecy that he cannot be killed by any man
He was only vanquished as Mary had stabbed him with an enchanted blade that got rid of his magical defenses, an anti Nazgūl blade, and was struck then by Eowyn at that perfect moment
Nazgūl also has poisonous breath and a presence of fear- as in you feel absolute dread whenever you are around them
Any one who isn’t a Maia or beyond is weak in comparison to a Nazgūl which is why Eowyn and Mary’s bravery against the Witch King, the leader of the nazgūl, is inspiring
So you're a weakling? Thats why you find that relatable
The Rings of Power. Or LOTR if it had been written by Sauron.
When my wife and I started dating, I had the pleasure of introducing her to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. It was great because I don't even think she quite understood the allegorical structure of the films, and I got someone new to open up to Tolkien. We later watched the Hobbit trilogy and were both a bit disappointed, to say the least. Well, years later, this series comes out. Since she's a "she" and works around a bunch of other women, of course she wanted to watch this new series. However, she didn't realize exactly what this show was. From the first episode, she fell asleep almost immediately. It's played on our TV for a while (usually while I'm elsewhere) as background noise to which people can fall asleep. I gave it an honest chance to see what it was about. Man, I don't think I've ever seen as big of a piece of shit, even after opening septic systems. Nothing made sense about the characters, events, or even the damned plot. I genuinely didn't even realize that it had anything to do with the original LOTR story or characters because it was so stupidly written that it's almost like a totally disjointed retelling of a retelling of a retard's coloring book.
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The biggest insult about the quote, "it felt natural to us that the script should reflect the world we live in today," is that Tolkien was a veteran of the hellish trenches of WWI. The world he lived in was bleak, industrial, cruel, and deadly. The story and world he made was about the good in people burning brightly against the darkness that threatens to extinguish it. It is where noble souls struggle against impossible odds and, through the triumph of valor, selflessness, and comraderie, push the darkness that threatens the world back. It ultimately does not defeat darkness forever, but we get this beautiful view into a world that could be. Middle earth was never a reflection of the "modern world" but rather an escape from it.
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Nailed it mate. It's a gluten-free sh-t sandwich with no pickle and no side of fries. And no bread, for that matter.
Good job Amazon for killing the lord of the rings
I totally agree with you on the cultural point. A dwarf wouldn't be black. They live underground. It just wouldn't make any sense.
When Galadriel rides the horse and sharts in excitement was a cinematic masterpiece second to none.
This program lost me when it showed Galadriel swimming oh, I don't know, 53 miles through the open ocean all the while wearing a flimsy dress that would have sunk her in a matter of minutes. No more thank you. The so-called "lead actress" makes one remember Dorothy Parker's comment on Katherine Hepburn: "she runs the emotional gamut from A to B". Not to mention that Galadriel in LOTR is an elvish sorceress, not a battlefield commander. This hardly pointed the way to LOTR;; in fact it just points nowhere, and there is no reason to watch it at all. I don't care about "racial inclusivity" or any such nonsense; I want characters I can believe with directing and production values that make it watchable as a whole. This program delivers nothing like that; it's a total waste of time and energy
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The part where Galadriel said "I cannot defeat this franchise. I can only kill it, and that no longer holds my interest" warmed my very soul.
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“Why are there so many men in the rings of power ?” That is an independent article I just read and wow…. Riveting stuff lololol
The part where Glayladrial told Sauron, "As a woman, my rings have more power." was a real eye opener for me.
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My favourite part of this show is how accurately it reflects the world we live in today
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Holy shit absolutely
Love how British people know the "state of the world"
Unoriginal fake pathetic and worthless perfectly sums it up...can't believe they destroyed this entire world of lore for a garbage message
As a dragon I felt quite underrepresented in this show.
ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON ANALYSIS!!! This show was absolute garbage from start to finish! #gowokegobroke
The part where Galadriel says autobots rolls out was stunning and brave.
The part where Diverse Queen lady of Numenor, single handedly gets rid of all the 300 orphans by sending them to the South Lands with dime store Galadrial, and obviously-Sauron. That was top quality writing, illustrating the writers desire to tell the world that orphans don't matter.
When Galadriel said "Sauron's war is to blame for the high inflation and economic recession in Middle-Earth" I really felt that.
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The part where Sauron tells Galadriel that he's pregnant brought a tear to my eyes.
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The part where she's like, I'll drive you, to Connecticut
😹😹😹🤣🤣🤭🥲 *clears throat and regains composure* Well said Ser
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The bit where Galadriel turns around, takes off her helmet and says "My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, general of the Felix Legion, commander of the armies of the North, loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius, father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife, and I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next," made me turn off RoP and go and watch better things from 20 years ago.
The part where Sauron said 'this is the day you will always remember as the day you almost caught Captain Sauron' when Guyladriel was drowning was emotional and brave.
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The part when Galadriel advertizes her OF accunt to NewMenoreans is really empowering ✊🏿✊
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The part where Galadriel threw her fist up in defiance of Sauron while her hands were handcuffed was just an amazing scene.
The part where Galadriel says "Mahalo motherf-" before blasting the alien's head off with a destroyer cannon was truly inspiring.
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I love the part where Galadriel holds her sword aloft and screams "There can only be one!". Got legit chills and almost cried.
The opening thesis is about how expectations can shape our opinion of a movie. Very, very true. My favorite movies have often been little indie features that are not objectively great- but they soared above my expectations. On the other hand, have slagged on movies which were not that bad- but disappointed my expectations. (watch them later, with a clear head, and I can start to like them again.)
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The Part where Galadriel updated her Twitter profile to spell out her pronouns was moving and epic.
He/they/elfrond
helloo i did a review too about lotr the rings of power :)
@russo1 its funny you can tell just by her face
elfself was so brave.
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Wow, six episodes. I tapped out like ten minutes into episode three. Tolkien has a boatload fo other work out there but it is largely unfinished or at least unconnected. They seem more like literary exercises than serious story telling. Point being these hacks can point to other Tolkien work as source material but they've still screwed the pooch. It's purely a money grab by untalented people trying to bleed a couple more bucks from a great work. And for this they cancelled "The Expanse"> Peace.
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You got through 6 episodes of this shite ! Yikes , I feel for you man . I couldn't take any more than two
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Critical Drinker, what do you think of Jedi Brooks' scene comparison videos of Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings to Amazon's The Rings of Power?
Mild correction, bear with me. Galardiel, in name only, isn't the physical equal to any man, she is the physical superior to any man.
Literal chills when Sauron looked away and said “it seems, in my lust for power, I have become the Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power™"
So thats it, huh? we're some kinda Amazon's Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Trademark?
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helloo i did a review too about the rings of power :)
This is the stinkiest scene in all of the rings of power lol kzclip.net/video/kOKgRu-DGdI/бейне.html
The second Galadriel said 'No, we keep moving' despite potentially leaving one of her own to die, made me realise this character isn't a commander of an army, nor is good at pretending to be one. Considering this happens in the first ten minutes of the first episode, it doesn't leave me feeling confident in her decision-making later on. Lo and behold, the show actually justified my feelings on that multiple times. She is extremely unlikeable, but as you said, the fact she's female means she gets away with being callous, uncaring, rude, and extremely bad in diplomatic situations. She acts more like a tyrant than a hero.
The part where Galadriel used her Force powers to guide her piss stream towards Sauron's eyes was truly inspiring.
I‘m literally shaking rn
I literally shat myself. So stunning, so brave!
I hope she was pissing while standing up, because that‘s what strong, empowered women do!
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Loved the moment when galadriel got out of her plastic chair and started singing "I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING". Truly one of the moments of the show.
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15:54 Does she have no arms??? Dang, she hits every minority checkbox in the book
I got chills when Galadriel said “my body my choice” and proceeded to abort Sauron
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helloo i did a review too about lotr, the rings of power :)
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More like Saurons baby :D
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The part where Galadriel advises Miriel to "stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen!" left me in awe. Such comradry, such insight!
I have a feeling that most film critics have jumped on an wagon (most likely originating in America, with the extreme Trumpist views), that have gotten such a speed and unstoppable force, that no person with respect for him/her-self (did you see what I just wrote?) can survive saying anything else then totally flushing the whole show down the toilet.
I'm trying to be objective, and I agree: Especially for the price of 1B US$, it's seriously not good enough. However there's some extremely nice scenes from far away. The problem seem to come when the show zoom into the individual characters. I'm not sure what happened, but I feel that all possibilities to be really HONEST and OBJECTIVE with this show have totally vanished, because of some cheap, cynical, low-brow political points.
People have become too heavily enraged by silly things like dark-skinned elves, dwarfs and hobbits and a scare of militant feminism taking over society, for anyone to be rational about it.
To say it more simple: The whole show have degraded into an element of modern, political, far right-wing politics, and there's too much aggression built up against it to have any serious, calm, rational and neutral reflections about it that will ever be heard.
@Sid New Another thought on this, With all the actors from theathre, maybe it would make more sense to go full big budget theathre with this one. The selling point being it's a big budget theatherical production not a realistic tv show. In theather anyone can play anyone, Don Quixote in La Mancha just needs to sing well. You don't have to worry about events taking place miles away or years away over hundreds of years in threatre which works with this story. A narrator would probably help with the newbies to tolkien and a grandesique story. More music for fun like the Orcs they are trying to humanize more singing "Where there's a whip there's a way" like the 70s cartoon. It could work and allow for more diversity in hiring and be a blast versus the mess we got.
Anyways Merry Christmas to you. Hopefully the Ukraine doesn't make the winter to rough for Europe this winter. :)
Dude, I am from Germany and definitely more on the left side, but all his points are credible.
It's not the diversity per se, of course not, it's the poor way of execution.
And it IS a problem when you put modern, empowered women everywhere in middle-earth.
There is a good way of being "woke" (you know, the good meaning of the word) - look at HotD or The Boys as an example.
But shoving it down your throat wether it fits or not is always a good way to alienate even the most progressive viewers.
@Elvenkind thanks. I thought about it some more. The breaking of MiddleEarth at Numeror's fall into a globe from flatland also increased distances. It allows them to reconcile the two works 😀.
@Robert Craig Ashby Thanks for understanding what I'm trying to say. Have a nice week. 🙂
I respect your viewpoint. I agree in many respects.
hollywood in my opinion is just a complete joke to me, they rarely make any good films, and I just view them as the comedic film company because its so funny to watch them mess up every narrative
im kinda glad tolkien died early now because if he had lived to see what had become of his series and what became of storytelling as a whole he would of probably had his soul crushed completely
Thank you for sharing why I shouldn't watch this show!
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